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But it's on the coaches for BS conservative play calling. They have done this for Whitt's entire tenure. He's just not aggressive offensively he has his offense play not to lose. He turns all of the athletes on the team into defenders and generally just doesn't give his offense a chance to be better than average.

This is how it's gonna be for the rest of his tenure at Utah.
 
Whittingham's reputation of a lousy passing offense just kills recruiting/transfers. It's like that UCLA WR transfer Devin Lucien he had two options Utah or Arizona State, he gave both schools a fair look but surprise surprise ended up choosing Arizona State. A lot of times Utah offers a decent 3 star QB, but he also gets a offer from another Pac-12 school not named Colorado, the kid's not going to pick us. If Whitt could actually go outside his comfort zone and pick a OC outside of the people he know maybe we could change that reputation but that's not going to happen. So we are just stuck with it. We can win games but there is clearly a limit of how much you can succeed in this league without a respectable passing game.
 
The Utes really blew it this year with their losses to USC and UCLA. It's hard to think if this opportunity to take the south will ever be there again, given the strength of each school in recruiting.
 
This is how it's gonna be for the rest of his tenure at Utah.
It cost Ron McBride his job. Yet Kyle continues to do it. I'm not sure Kyle makes it another 3 years here. I just can't see this team being any good next year and without an offense it's going to be a real problem when they lose their entire LB corp. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see the offense being the same with a RB who is unlikely to last the season with 30+ carries a game.
 
It cost Ron McBride his job. Yet Kyle continues to do it. I'm not sure Kyle makes it another 3 years here. I just can't see this team being any good next year and without an offense it's going to be a real problem when they lose their entire LB corp. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see the offense being the same with a RB who is unlikely to last the season with 30+ carries a game.

Next year could be a real problem. My expectations are 6 wins and a victory over BYU.
 
However, I will stick up for Whitt when it comes to the MacBride comparisons. When Mac was terminated, he was winning 5 games in a G5 conference. It's hard to bring the hammer down on Whitt after two seasons of 8-4, 9-3 while playing in the PAC 12. As angry as Ute fans are right now, it's surreal to think that all of us are this angry coming on the heels of our 2 most successful PAC 12 seasons.

That being said, I think the offensive instability and woes are epic, and unforgivable. Whitt will be back next year, but I worry it's his last unless he has some sort of revelation and does an offensive 180.
 
Next year could be a real problem. My expectations are 6 wins and a victory over BYU.
Honestly from where I'm sitting that might be asking a lot. 6-6 next year would be a fairly successful season givin all the players they are losing and the lack of experienced players to replace them.
 
Troy Williams probably. he was highly recruited out of high school, Utah will hope he can show why, because the other options aren't great.

Literally, Troy Williams is the only option as of right now IMO. An ESPN top 100 recruit that has a year starting experience at UW. Also, an early entrant from JC who will be here for spring ball. As for the guys already here, Brandon Cox has never been able to even dent the depth chart, Connor Manning is ill suited for our offense and also has never made a push for playing time, and Chase Hansen is a Safety.

Tyler Huntley is a nice recruit who's tearing it up in Florida, but he'll be a true freshman, and that's assuming Utah actually lands him on campus. He's a verbal right now but I think he will attract more schools with the senior season he just had. We'll see if Utah can survive the recruiting push.
 
However, I will stick up for Whitt when it comes to the MacBride comparisons. When Mac was terminated, he was winning 5 games in a G5 conference. It's hard to bring the hammer down on Whitt after two seasons of 8-4, 9-3 while playing in the PAC 12. As angry as Ute fans are right now, it's surreal to think that all of us are this angry coming on the heels of our 2 most successful PAC 12 seasons.

That being said, I think the offensive instability and woes are epic, and unforgivable. Whitt will be back next year, but I worry it's his last unless he has some sort of revelation and does an offensive 180.

I am just a fairweather Ute fan, don't follow too closely. The one constant with Whitt that strikes me is the poor QBs he goes with. Maybe they are the best he can get, but to me they always look inferior. He kept running Jordan Wynn (?) out there even after his arm was completely shot. Travis Wilson has never been all that great.
 
As angry as Ute fans are right now, it's surreal to think that all of us are this angry coming on the heels of our 2 most successful PAC 12 seasons.

That being said, I think the offensive instability and woes are epic, and unforgivable. Whitt will be back next year, but I worry it's his last unless he has some sort of revelation and does an offensive 180.

No anger here. I'm tickled pink with this season's results. I also am not so sure that next season is going to suck as bad as people think. For whatever reason, I feel good about next year.

As far as Whit - let's see what happens. Having a passing quarterback like Troy Williams on the team could change a lot of things - success with the passing game, the perception of Utah as a non-destination for passing quarterbacks, etc. I'm not pinning all my hopes and dreams on Troy Williams by any means, but I think his arrival and (hopefully) good play could go a long way.

Even then, keep in mind that when getting coaches you are looking for coaches to "take the team to the next level." Whit isn't completely done, I think. He's got a bit more work he can do before he's done everything to the best of his ability to make the program top-notch and solid. If things stagnate, then we can call for his head. But I agree with jazzman12 - two solid seasons in a row with continued improvement, and some hope for solid play in the next few seasons.

I'm feeling good about things.
 
I am just a fairweather Ute fan, don't follow too closely. The one constant with Whitt that strikes me is the poor QBs he goes with. Maybe they are the best he can get, but to me they always look inferior. He kept running Jordan Wynn (?) out there even after his arm was completely shot. Travis Wilson has never been all that great.
I think their real failure is in the development of the QB. Wilson was a highly recruited guy out of high school, as was Chase Hansen. They just don't seem to be able to develop the QB under Kyle.
 
I think their real failure is in the development of the QB. Wilson was a highly recruited guy out of high school, as was Chase Hansen. They just don't seem to be able to develop the QB under Kyle.

Isn't Brian(sp?) Johnson the QB coach though?
 
Kaelin Clay ran back a punt on Monday Night Football in just his second career game, way to represent!
 
I am just a fairweather Ute fan, don't follow too closely. The one constant with Whitt that strikes me is the poor QBs he goes with. Maybe they are the best he can get, but to me they always look inferior. He kept running Jordan Wynn (?) out there even after his arm was completely shot. Travis Wilson has never been all that great.
My god jordan wynn sucked. Wilson >>> wynn
Kaelin Clay ran back a punt on Monday Night Football in just his second career game, way to represent!

that was awesome!
 
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