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The UN array of programs, goals, objectives. . . the "New World Order" can hardly be called a conspiracy, because it's all written down in public documents which millions of people accept as the right way to go in managing planet earth.

It's only a "conspiracy" in the eyes of ignoramuses who know nothing about it. However, the media doesn't discuss it much, and a lot of conservatives are ignoramuses, for sure.

We truly enlightened souls who have joined the great quest for the better world must necessarily use some discretion in our public expressions, to avoid too much criticism from the great unwashed and uninformed bottomfeeder elements of our society.

Included in that program, since the founding of the UN, is the program to remove all private weapons from the hands of individuals, and specifying the military weaponry to be allowed under the supervision of governance personnel. This official arming of trusted elements of society will keep the military provisioners profitable, and the use of those weapons in an endless succession of "Bowery Wars", conducted with supervision from the highest echelons of the most important and wisest of mankind, will help to keep human population under appropriate control, and might possibly avert the necessity of Prince Philip, the Queen's Consort, being reincarnated as a deadly plague to nobly serve the great cause of reducing human population to the sustainable level of about 500 million worldwide.

And when these goals are achieved, there will be vast corridors of primeval wilderness teeming with abundant wildlife, and a flourishing Royal Hunting concession, which I intend to supervise.

It will be wonderful. I couldn't imagine a better world for our future.

Siro could you please translate this in plain/simple English? I fear if I ask Babe he'll make it even more confusing for me.. LOL ..
 
Siro could you please translate this in plain/simple English? I fear if I ask Babe he'll make it even more confusing for me.. LOL ..

In broad rhetorical terms, asking Siro to translate babe is like asking Satan to translate the Bible.

For example, in the previous Siro translation of babe, Siro literally gurgles. . . think of blood burbling up from the lungs into the vocal chords choking off the feeble attempt to form a syllable. . . .

He counters that I'm the enthusiast, because the real conspiracy is being perpetrated by Clinton and others in what is usually referred to as the New World Order

where, to put it succinctly he could have said he is merely an enthusiast for global governance, though he considers it prudent to deny the fact.

In right wingnut terms, folks who fancy globalism are disavowing their real passion, to keep people from laughing out loud at their schemes.

thus, Siro is the conspiracy enthusiast. Though I am now joining the cause, because, hey, I'm smart enough to make it my own program.

David Rockefeller, step aside. babe is taking over. Siro, bow to the new megalomaniacal master of the human race. you've been babed.
 
where, to put it succinctly he could have said he is merely an enthusiast for global governance, though he considers it prudent to deny the fact.

Not true. I explicitly stated on multiple occasions that I am for a level of global governance. There is nothing to deny. I see little value in your philosophy of radical individualism, and a ton of value in the economic and political interdependence movement that has swept the globe over the past century.
 
In broad rhetorical terms, asking Siro to translate babe is like asking Satan to translate the Bible.

For example, in the previous Siro translation of babe, Siro literally gurgles. . . think of blood burbling up from the lungs into the vocal chords choking off the feeble attempt to form a syllable. . . .

Then can you translate it for me?
 
Then can you translate it for me?

Let's focus on the simple stuff.

The UN program calls for the elimination of firearms from individual ownership/use, and the gradual emplacement of prescribed soldiers to keep the peace.

Who are those soldiers gonna point their guns at?

I went on a rant about population optimums bandied around in the right circles, in the range of 100 M to 500M. Who is gonna pick the approved list?

But to be sure, I want the Royal hunting concession. So I'm In.
 
Let's focus on the simple stuff.

The UN program calls for the elimination of firearms from individual ownership/use, and the gradual emplacement of prescribed soldiers to keep the peace.

Who are those soldiers gonna point their guns at?

I went on a rant about population optimums bandied around in the right circles, in the range of 100 M to 500M. Who is gonna pick the approved list?

But to be sure, I want the Royal hunting concession. So I'm In.

You really believe those ridiculous paranoid fantasies about a global genocide to cull 90% of the world's population for the sake of environmentalist? Get real.
 
You really believe those ridiculous paranoid fantasies about a global genocide to cull 90% of the world's population for the sake of environmentalist? Get real.

No, I really believe there are nutjob folks hanging out in all the right places who wish they could solve the world's problems their way.

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
Prince Philip, in his Foreword to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

talk is cheap, but it takes money and influence to make it happen. And some of those nutjobs have some money and some influence, though I am sure most of the people in the room know they're just nutjobs with money and influence, but not enough.

Having the composure to laugh at such things is a measure of one's sanity. Knowing when someone else is "laughting" is an indicator of good sense.

Little folks like you who take the world all too seriously end up just being used, all too often. Your ideals or principles just get manipulated for somebody else's purposes. Yah gotta learn to dance to the music, but it really only works if you can laugh while you do. It sets you free. Well, in a degree or two, anyway./
 
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You really believe those ridiculous paranoid fantasies about a global genocide to cull 90% of the world's population for the sake of environmentalist? Get real.

Sounds cool, doe.
 
Sorry, not to me.

So, bro, back in 1970 or so, my brother was in the army, an officer trained in chemical warfare. He passed away and I fell heir to his stuff, including his instruction materials. fascinating that way back then the emphasis was on a theoretical war scenario in the middle east.

So China's population explosion was put out by Ford Foundation grants inside communist China in the sixties which supplied the expertise, technology and indoctrination needed to achieve compliance with state-mandated one-child family policy, with scads of women paid to watch out for non-compliant cases so no one could evade it.

When our global managers come to the middle east, the task is not so easy because of the deep religious beliefs, so some of our great thinkers do go wandering down those dark lanes figuring how to discredit that religion, and how to bring the population into check. Without breaking the religious belief, their next option is war. Yes we have hawkish folks like Karl Rove, Zbigneiw Brezenski, others who project that a great war can be manufactured to change the region, bring in compliant thinking, and make it all fit in with the program. It's a bit British in style, but pitting one group against another and letting them duke it out with guns and bombs does keep them from uniting and becoming an independent force on the world stage.
 
So, bro, back in 1970 or so, my brother was in the army, an officer trained in chemical warfare. He passed away and I fell heir to his stuff, including his instruction materials. fascinating that way back then the emphasis was on a theoretical war scenario in the middle east.

So China's population explosion was put out by Ford Foundation grants inside communist China in the sixties which supplied the expertise, technology and indoctrination needed to achieve compliance with state-mandated one-child family policy, with scads of women paid to watch out for non-compliant cases so no one could evade it.

When our global managers come to the middle east, the task is not so easy because of the deep religious beliefs, so some of our great thinkers do go wandering down those dark lanes figuring how to discredit that religion, and how to bring the population into check. Without breaking the religious belief, their next option is war. Yes we have hawkish folks like Karl Rove, Zbigneiw Brezenski, others who project that a great war can be manufactured to change the region, bring in compliant thinking, and make it all fit in with the program. It's a bit British in style, but pitting one group against another and letting them duke it out with guns and bombs does keep them from uniting and becoming an independent force on the world stage.

You're worrying too much about population control, as if that's an insurmountable problem. As soon as people's living conditions become decent, the derivative of the population curve quickly approaches zero. No need for those grand, decades spanning, clandestine, and sinister tactics. This has been the case all over the world. It seems like so much wasted energy for our "great thinkers" to be expending on Machiavellian schemes to solve problems that solve themselves over time. Specially since improved global economic conditions, and increased buying power, is beneficial to ,the now international, corporations that hold the most power.
 
Let's focus on the simple stuff.

The UN program calls for the elimination of firearms from individual ownership/use, and the gradual emplacement of prescribed soldiers to keep the peace.

Who are those soldiers gonna point their guns at?

I went on a rant about population optimums bandied around in the right circles, in the range of 100 M to 500M. Who is gonna pick the approved list?

But to be sure, I want the Royal hunting concession. So I'm In.

Just because the UN program calls for elimination of firearms, doesn't mean terrorists are just going to drop them?


I would imagine countries still needing soldiers to protect the people from these terrorists?
 
I really can't tell if Babe is trolling us with these theories or whether he really believes in them? It's really hard to tell ATM.


One thing is certain though it's been pretty entertaining / amusing.. LOL
 
You're worrying too much about population control, as if that's an insurmountable problem. As soon as people's living conditions become decent, the derivative of the population curve quickly approaches zero. No need for those grand, decades spanning, clandestine, and sinister tactics. This has been the case all over the world. It seems like so much wasted energy for our "great thinkers" to be expending on Machiavellian schemes to solve problems that solve themselves over time. Specially since improved global economic conditions, and increased buying power, is beneficial to ,the now international, corporations that hold the most power.

I know that there is a huge trend towards reduced children coincident to advanced education and employment, and I know it is hugely beneficial to the corporate bottom line as well. Mexico, as an example, has a very strong trend away from large families ongoing. The Philippines, circa 1970 had 50M, now I think only about 80M, a country that had huge pride in large families less than fifty years ago. It was done without a war, or a government decree on birth control.

But what do you say about the ME war machines, who is funding all that?
 
Just because the UN program calls for elimination of firearms, doesn't mean terrorists are just going to drop them?


I would imagine countries still needing soldiers to protect the people from these terrorists?

The UN agenda theorized that dissidents could be disarmed as a class, and that includes terrorists. So much for perfect planning, huh?
 
So, bro, back in 1970 or so, my brother was in the army, an officer trained in chemical warfare. He passed away and I fell heir to his stuff, including his instruction materials. fascinating that way back then the emphasis was on a theoretical war scenario in the middle east.

So China's population explosion was put out by Ford Foundation grants inside communist China in the sixties which supplied the expertise, technology and indoctrination needed to achieve compliance with state-mandated one-child family policy, with scads of women paid to watch out for non-compliant cases so no one could evade it.

When our global managers come to the middle east, the task is not so easy because of the deep religious beliefs, so some of our great thinkers do go wandering down those dark lanes figuring how to discredit that religion, and how to bring the population into check. Without breaking the religious belief, their next option is war. Yes we have hawkish folks like Karl Rove, Zbigneiw Brezenski, others who project that a great war can be manufactured to change the region, bring in compliant thinking, and make it all fit in with the program. It's a bit British in style, but pitting one group against another and letting them duke it out with guns and bombs does keep them from uniting and becoming an independent force on the world stage.

Whoa, whoa, whoa back up a step. You are telling us the Chinese Communist Party is a puppet of the Rockafellers? Where does Vladi fit cozily into this puzzle?
 
He has been friendly with the Clintons and donated money to their campaigns.

The conspiracy theory, as I understand it, was that he joined the race on the R side to muddy the waters and put the republican ticket in disarray. By the time there is a nominee they will be playing catchup to Hillary. If the nominee is Trump then it's a guaranteed win for Hillary. If it's Rubio or Cruz we'll only just start getting to know them as all the attention has been on Trump.

I actually don't think that's all that crazy to be true. Poli-sci strategists set this stuff up years in advance (hence the last 4 year Benghazi nonsense, the server deletion, etc. etc). They're as good as Wall Street at boiling down and predicting.

Trump has been setting himself up for this run for several years. It may have been an opportunistic decision, but it's one that he's been waiting to take advantage of. What did he have to lose by being a Clinton puppet? He is the king of any publicity is good publicity. Maybe Miss America will be required to wear stars n stripes bikini's next pageant.
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa back up a step. You are telling us the Chinese Communist Party is a puppet of the Rockafellers? Where does Vladi fit cozily into this puzzle?

Go watch the old movie Eagle in a Cage.

International intrigue is never what it seems, but is old as the hills.

Vladi understands the Brit stage, and he is a player, but smart enough only a CFR fool wouldn't think twice about classifying him. The Chinese understand the game, and are willing to play along to a point. They are long-term thinkers, planning what the world will look like 100 years out.

It'll take an alliance to front them anywhere. Never means there aren't ideas being successfully put to work anywhere, never means that. All it took was some folks who could talk, and do the math.
 
When a society is undergoing great social/cultural change, anxiety, fear, and anger can very easily develop among a segment of that society. And times like that are ripe for the rise of a demagogue who knows how to stoke the baser instincts of his listeners; who knows how to harness that fear and anger to his advantage. In early 21st century America, Donald Trump is that demagogue. To Americans educated in history, seeing the rise of a demagogue like a Trump in our midst is about as disheartening as it gets.
Yes, Virginia, it can happen here. Tom Jefferson is often paraphrased to have said "an educated electorate is needed for a democracy to survive." Well, look how a demagogue can flat out pull the wool over the eyes of his fellow citizens. Donald Trump represents the nadir of American politics in this era of social and cultural change....

https://www.salon.com/2015/09/24/8_...lls_for_demagogues_like_donald_trump_partner/
 
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