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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...onald-trump-the-demagogue-20151218-story.html

"I was thinking of using the word “demagogue” to describe Donald Trump, but to be sure that it fit I checked its definition in Wikipedia. The opening paragraph, in full but omitting the etymology, is: “A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.”

Perfect. The only thing that's missing is a picture of a grinning Trump."
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When a black man was roughed up at a Trump rally, Trump suggested "maybe he should have been roughed up".

When someone pointed out to Trump that Putin has Russian members of the press murdered on his orders, Trump replied "it has not been proven" and "Putin is a strong leader."

Oh yeah, Trump is a real class act. Just who we want representing our nation. A hate mongering fascist. We have a fascist running for President, and Americans too ignorant of history not to actually support him.
 
C'mon. Apple Arf, a beautiful metaphor for life?

Sometimes you have to use the higher power centers in your brain to fix the typos in Jazzfanz.
 
Red said:
When a society is undergoing great social/cultural change, anxiety, fear, and anger can very easily develop among a segment of that society. And times like that are ripe for the rise of a demagogue who knows how to stoke the baser instincts of his listeners; who knows how to harness that fear and anger to his advantage. In early 21st century America, Donald Trump is that demagogue. To Americans educated in history, seeing the rise of a demagogue like a Trump in our midst is about as disheartening as it gets.
Yes, Virginia, it can happen here. Tom Jefferson is often paraphrased to have said "an educated electorate is needed for a democracy to survive." Well, look how a demagogue can flat out pull the wool over the eyes of his fellow citizens. Donald Trump represents the nadir of American politics in this era of social and cultural change....

https://www.salon.com/2015/09/24/8_...lls_for_demagogues_like_donald_trump_partner/
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You're needlessly, and fruitlessly, depressed. Things are fine.

In a world where Presidents are mere figureheads of power, who predictably respond to pressures from the right sources, the whole problem of demagoguery is solved. That is the beauty of "Insider" power. And besides, when we have seriously-funded think-tanks staffed by the finest intellectuals money can buy, it doesn't even matter if the President is just stupid.

Obama is the perfect example to illustrate my point. Remember when he said he could just solve problems unilaterally, going right around Congress? How cool is that? "I have a pen, and a phone." An open declaration of Presidential independence. The right people can and do give him phone calls, and tell him what to write with that pen of his, in terms of Presidential orders.

Elections are really pretty unnecessary, and we could just let Obama stay in that office and take those calls. But it won't matter, whoever gets elected next. That phone will still be there.
 
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Red said:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...onald-trump-the-demagogue-20151218-story.html

"I was thinking of using the word “demagogue” to describe Donald Trump, but to be sure that it fit I checked its definition in Wikipedia. The opening paragraph, in full but omitting the etymology, is: “A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.”

Perfect. The only thing that's missing is a picture of a grinning Trump."
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When a black man was roughed up at a Trump rally, Trump suggested "maybe he should have been roughed up".

When someone pointed out to Trump that Putin has Russian members of the press murdered on his orders, Trump replied "it has not been proven" and "Putin is a strong leader."

Oh yeah, Trump is a real class act. Just who we want representing our nation. A hate mongering fascist. We have a fascist running for President, and Americans too ignorant of history not to actually support him.
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Hillary will do the same things Trump would do, or any of the Republicans except Rand Paul, Ben Carson, and maybe even Ted Cruz. That is the beauty of modern fascism under a stable corporate set of interests.

As long as those government checks go out to the people, and those people keep cashing them and heading for the BigBox stores, our economy will be fine.
 
Red said:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...onald-trump-the-demagogue-20151218-story.html

"I was thinking of using the word “demagogue” to describe Donald Trump, but to be sure that it fit I checked its definition in Wikipedia. The opening paragraph, in full but omitting the etymology, is: “A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices and ignorance of the lower socioeconomic classes in order to gain power and promote political motives. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.”

Perfect. The only thing that's missing is a picture of a grinning Trump."
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When a black man was roughed up at a Trump rally, Trump suggested "maybe he should have been roughed up".

When someone pointed out to Trump that Putin has Russian members of the press murdered on his orders, Trump replied "it has not been proven" and "Putin is a strong leader."

Oh yeah, Trump is a real class act. Just who we want representing our nation. A hate mongering fascist. We have a fascist running for President, and Americans too ignorant of history not to actually support him.
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So a fascist is running for president, a fascist is acting as president now and no one seems to worked up about it. This is what happens when people only get their news from one source, they actually believe there is a difference between Trump and Obama.

Bill was going to fix Sr's mess, Jr was going to fix Bill's mess, Obama was going to end all wars and fix Jr's mess. The deficit has never stopped growing, the wars have never stopped, the middle class have never stopped shrinking, and the poor have never stopped getting dumped on. And Americans still believe voting matters.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Donald Trump: Hillary Clinton 'got schlonged' in 2008


https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-disgusting/index.html


Babe? Care to comment?
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Let's put it this way. Hillary is the blue-haired lady who knows how to work her way around a posh effete little jet-set gathering of the anointed ones.

Obama knows how to survive on the street.

I had hopes Obama would be better at foreign policy, and I do give him credit for averting a stupid war with Iran so far. McCain and Romney would have been manipulated into more militarism. But Obama has spent most of his presidency learning the ropes Hillary already knew.

Seeing how some actual realism applied to political campaigns got Obama the nod was refreshing. I repeat, nobody can be worse than Hillary.
 
mellow said:
So a fascist is running for president, a fascist is acting as president now and no one seems to worked up about it. This is what happens when people only get their news from one source, they actually believe there is a difference between Trump and Obama.

Bill was going to fix Sr's mess, Jr was going to fix Bill's mess, Obama was going to end all wars and fix Jr's mess. The deficit has never stopped growing, the wars have never stopped, the middle class have never stopped shrinking, and the poor have never stopped getting dumped on. And Americans still believe voting matters.
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This is an A grade analysis.
 
I'll take a million Hillary's over one day with Trump as president.
 
franklin said:
on a paper in the school for a troubled youth school writing class?
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The folks who have enough money to care would tell their hired "think tank" spinners to snarl out epithets like "conspiracy theorist", I'm sure.

The reason you're a drunk is just because the world doesn't make sense, really.

Come to my school and put some of your deepest conflicts to paper, and let's see if you can make the grade.

A brain is a terrible thing to pickle. Trust me, there are people who care. Even for you.

But hey, mellow might have put in terms just too harsh for us to live with. It's not all that bad. In fact, all is well. We have an excellent lineup of intellectuals, scholars, professionals of all kinds. We have folks who pay them very well to analyze everything and develop policies. Our leading lights go to the trouble of planning for all the contingencies. "Fascist" is not a word that really does justice to our managerial class or their directors. "Benefactors" is the word they use. Go take a walk down the main hall of any hospital or library in this country. Our leaders are all there, in portraits on the walls, as donors to essential community assets, and they are called "Benefactors".

It's the world we know, and if we just accept it, it can go on the way it is.
 
Platform Rules

I haven't decided yet whether I should be an R or a D. I think it should be the R&D Party anyway.

Historically, the Republican Party arose when some New York Bankers picked Lincoln to head the ticket. They wanted the Union busted up, because this whole "Constitutional Republic" business just, well. . . . got in the way of Business. They were New York bankers, but other bankers saw the same problem, and the same opportunities. The whole West, including California, was "up for grabs". Some elemental Brits saw a breakup as an opportunity to merely reassert Brit dominion over parts, if not all at once. But the more cerebral Brits, the parlor pansies with their more astute methods of commerce, had already realized that it was imprudent to be seen by the public as the relevant rulers of any dominion, when it was absolutely easier, and more profitable, to reduce the governments to puppet level in managerial terms. And Corporations were now established around the world as relevant legal entities that could sway any government with a nod and a manila envelope appropriately stuffed. Investments in governance were now already proving more important that mobs of ignoramuses casting ballots, even in America.

The Democratic Party has evolved as well, from southern gentlemen protecting their slave holdings, their plantation system, and their trade relations with English corporates. It was the mother of the KKK racism, but it was the bulwark of resistance as well against the carpetbaggers sent from Washington. Agrarian populism and unionizing populism presented a credible front to the robber baron corporates, it is true, but both were largely financed from London or surrogate commercial and banking interests.

FDR was a blue blooded American "royal", the figurehead of "The Right People" of the American elite, attempting feebly to assert local dominance of American politics, but it was too little, too late. Although we had passed some anti-trust legislation. . . we had also established the Federal Reserve, and established socialism as America's political system of relevance. Some cartelists smarted at the anti-trust laws, and sought offshore investment opportunities, bases on more fertile foreign soil. Ah, Germany. . . and Japan. Progressive industrial havens for big ideas, and larger operations.

WWII enriched the military producers immensely, and every other kind of cartel interest. It outmaneuvered the unions around the world with a sense of "victory for democracy" fabricated by the wholly-owned subservient Press, at the exact moment where the Big Money seized global control. With Armand Hammer serving as Stalin's manager, and China basically hammered back to the stone age, western interests of the highest significance established the UN as a skeletal framework to build better world, one day at a time.

Our commercialists learned a lot from the Civil War. We developed significant industries producing gunpowder, guns, ships, and machines. Trains, and boats powered by steam. And in the wake of Americans rushing to the gold fields, were the corporate mining interests from England, and our wannabees big men like the Rockefellers. Mostly what they learned is that government officials are a more profitable investment than commodities or productive properties. Corporates learned that government officials are poor dependent blokes who can be unseated with a few newspaper articles, and installed with a relatively small investment in campaigns. What with the newspapers in the right pockets, investments in governance yield dollars for every penny invested. Our benefactor interest/leadership has learned the art of real governance with minimal public awareness or unwanted scrutiny.

We been this kind of country,now, for over 150 years. It works. Our governance circles have been capitalists of the first rank, and have adroitly managed all kinds of retail tools of mass management, like "progressives" staffed with idealists like our own Siro and Dal, and loyalist patriots like our Game, common folk capable of intense commitments to useful points of view, all kinds of points of view, and causes, enough to befuddle any opponent to The Way Things Are. And a slightly more astute class of managers, folks who take pride in being good and loyal servants of significant, recognizable interests. UN dreamers, and better yet. . . . UN employees, who will serve the interests on a global sort of scale. People with dependable good sense, and dependable commitments to The Better Way. Game asks "Who?" in disbelief. They are thousands, a few big, and many "just doing their job". But there are millions. . . nay billions. . . . of people who fall in line and do what it takes for the system to operate. Fascism is an old word, and if it invokes a shrill little demagogue sending those he imagines to be some kind of problem to the chlorine gas chambers, it is just unfortunate for the term. The term must die now. The world has probably never really been "safe" for "democracy", and in fact even the United States has never been ruled "by the people". It just takes better people to manage bigger systems of order, bigger governments. "The Few, The Proud, The Successful."

All is indeed Well. "The Way Things Are" is "The Better Way".

Today is the day of perfection. Here is our chance to perfect the system we have known and accepted for over a hundred years. George Will, a one-time voice for the more conservative sort, those too smart for William F. Buckley, say. . . . has recently done an article on how Trump is the answer to the whole problem of the Tea Party, and of how Trumps candidacy will spell the end of that whole aberration and threat to progress. It would probably be better for management to just shut down the talk radio gigs, and impose some sensible restraints upon internet speech. . . yah. . . just to keep the rhetoric civil. . . but the whole ragtag band of tea party agitators and conservative ideologues is just gonna make a few more rasping gasps for their old beliefs, while Hillary, Marco, or. . . . babe. . . will seal the deal for the next thousand years.

Nothing short of a returning Jesus, riding in the clouds of glory with thousands of angels, could shake things up now.
 
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The Fusion party of mainstream Democrats and Republicans does need a sort of "Platform", semi-intelligle stated optimisms that will help the medicine slide down with a touch of relish, and go smoothly.

Since, of course, the principal market I must address consists of the folks who have "interests", or money, on the most significant scale, they will need to see that I am their man, and that I will be useful. . . successful. . . . manageable. . . . and a great communicator. The function of a President is much like that of the middlemanagement professional returning from the weekly corporate meetings, needing to form a positive consensus in the ranks in support of operational decisions or imperatives.

Yah gotta speak the language of the folks, and make them happy with their lives. . . .. .
 
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