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Go GET Teague

fishonjazz said:
So that is basically saying that we get more wide open threes than the league average and that we hit them at higher percentage than league average, right?

That's good to know. Thanks for the info
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No we get less pct wise, but we hit them more often if we get them.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Who are the absolute keepers?
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This team needs to add a solid point guard to the core AND a superstar to be relevant. How are they going to add a superstar?

I would shop Exum, Burks, Lyles and all the draft picks hard as a package to either acquire a s-n-t all star or a top 2 pick. Trey would be a great backup for 10-15 mpg (depending on how long the 3 guard lineup is used). Lyles can easily be replaced in FA. Solid power forwards go on the cheap for the last 7-8 years.

That's the only option I see without giving up a major piece, and it would be a very tough sell for a number 1 option.
 
Teague - $8mm and getting a raise to at least $15mm?
Hood - negligible for 3 seasons
Hayward - $16mm, and getting a raise regardless
Favors - $12mm, and going to get closer to $18-20mm if he stays healthy.
Gobert - $2mm, and might get the max of a projected $90mm cap (22.5mil)

Add a superstar, fill up the bench, and re-sign all these players?
 
ATL is rolling so they can ask for high prize for J.T or A.H - smart move, it's better to sell them know for high prize than later for desperate garbage.
 
jazzfan1132 said:
ATL is rolling so they can ask for high prize for J.T or A.H - smart move, it's better to sell them know for high prize than later for desperate garbage.
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Except Teague has made it known he wants out and has even put his house on the market. They're not going to get a high price for him. Atlanta needs to make a trade, just like Utah did with Kanter. However, Teague hasn't been that much of an ******* like Kanter was, so he hasn't totally destroyed his trade value.
 
jazzfan1132 said:
ATL is rolling so they can ask for high prize for J.T or A.H - smart move, it's better to sell them know for high prize than later for desperate garbage.
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Rolling? They've lost 5 out of 6. Their schedule gets worse from here is what the Hawks guy said. Korver has looked like ****... They are in trouble right now.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Except Teague has made it known he wants out and has even put his house on the market. They're not going to get a high price for him. Atlanta needs to make a trade, just like Utah did with Kanter. However, Teague hasn't been that much of an ******* like Kanter was, so he hasn't totally destroyed his trade value.
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If you ask me, Utah is the 'decoy' trade partner so the Hawks have more leverage in negotiations.
Quin Snyder was Bud's assistant before he joined the Jazz.
Bud is the GM in ATL. Bud is from San Antonio, Lindsey is from San Antonio.
It makes sense to help out each other.
 
BTP said:
If you ask me, Utah is the 'decoy' trade partner so the Hawks have more leverage in negotiations.
Quin Snyder was Bud's assistant before he joined the Jazz.
Bud is the GM in ATL. Bud is from San Antonio, Lindsey is from San Antonio.
It makes sense to help out each other.
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Hawks have no leverage in negotiations. Teague will be an UFA and has made it clear he doesn't want to stay. They also have a rookie PG ready to assume the reins in Schroeder. Atlanta is playing chicken and trying to get a lot of assets. In reality, a backup and a future first is more than fair. If they don't take something, they'll be left with an unhappy player and the price will go WAY down next summer or next season for a player who only has 1/2-1 season left. Expiring deals are worth next to ZERO with the cap increasing so much. Only a team wanting to add a couple of max players is going to need to clear space. And there will be a bunch of facilitators lined up to use their extra room under the floor to do so for minor assets.
 
BTP said:
If you ask me, Utah is the 'decoy' trade partner so the Hawks have more leverage in negotiations.
Quin Snyder was Bud's assistant before he joined the Jazz.
Bud is the GM in ATL. Bud is from San Antonio, Lindsey is from San Antonio.
It makes sense to help out each other.
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definitely a plausible scenario. Cool idea.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Hawks have no leverage in negotiations. Teague will be an UFA and has made it clear he doesn't want to stay. They also have a rookie PG ready to assume the reins in Schroeder. Atlanta is playing chicken and trying to get a lot of assets. In reality, a backup and a future first is more than fair. If they don't take something, they'll be left with an unhappy player and the price will go WAY down next summer or next season for a player who only has 1/2-1 season left. Expiring deals are worth next to ZERO with the cap increasing so much. Only a team wanting to add a couple of max players is going to need to clear space. And there will be a bunch of facilitators lined up to use their extra room under the floor to do so for minor assets.
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"no leverage" is too strong. If the crowd of buyers grows, then that improves ATL's position. Some people call that leverage.
 
NAOS said:
"no leverage" is too strong. If the crowd of buyers grows, then that improves ATL's position. Some people call that leverage.
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Ok, now I see what you are saying: announcing Utah is interested may get others teams to make trade offers. Got it!
 
Stifle Tower said:
Hawks have no leverage in negotiations. Teague will be an UFA and has made it clear he doesn't want to stay. They also have a rookie PG ready to assume the reins in Schroeder. Atlanta is playing chicken and trying to get a lot of assets. In reality, a backup and a future first is more than fair. If they don't take something, they'll be left with an unhappy player and the price will go WAY down next summer or next season for a player who only has 1/2-1 season left. Expiring deals are worth next to ZERO with the cap increasing so much. Only a team wanting to add a couple of max players is going to need to clear space. And there will be a bunch of facilitators lined up to use their extra room under the floor to do so for minor assets.
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They have some leverage if other teams have offers out there. The Bucks are the ones that i think could make the best non-Utah offer. I think if we don't pony up something of value they walk and trade him this offseason. The timing of this always seemed curios to me. I thought they might look to add to their veterans not subtract.

I'd send the OKC pick and Burke plus cap fodder. The OKC pick has limited protections and it likely turns into two second round picks. That way they can at least save face and say they got a good young player (in burke) and a first rounder for Teague.
 
I also watched the game last night. Teams don't respect Dennis' shot at all and I am not sure he's ready for the full time gig. His defense was disruptive several times though.

I wouldn't say Teague has mailed it in for them... he seemed to be trying and hustling, but I'm sure mentally he isn't 100% there. There is some bad mojo around that team right now and the ball was not moving like it did last year... they were awful.
 
ONE LOVE said:
GREAT article here about the the proposed trade for Teague by CBS Sports:


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25469313/jeff-teague-makes-a-lot-of-sense-as-a-trade-target-for-utah-heres-why
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Surprised the article doesn't mention Trey Burke at all - is the plan in ATL really to go with Shelvin Mack as the #2 PG?

That guy is awful - I'm surprised he's still in the league.

Also, if the plan is to ease back in Exum with Teague running the PG in the interim, then we're talking up giving up Burks for what amounts to 120 game rental? I dunno about that.
 
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