Go GET Teague

[fishonjazz]

I wouldn't want to pay Horford the max for his next deal.

Oh hell no. It's shocking that someone is going to

 

[fishonjazz]

You are certifiably insane if you think Neto is the answer at point guard. I like him as a backup, but name one decent team in the league with a worse starting PG situation than us.

Here we have a chance to get an above average player at our worst position for pennies in the dollar. This is what we've been waiting for and you guys have such a hard on for our own players that you are blinded. So let me drop some hard truth on ya: Exum was a timid as **** player BEFORE he tore his ACL why would that change now? Hey, maybe he comes back and becomes the player we all want him to be. But to put all you eggs in that basket? Foolish.

And you know what wouldn't help? Having him be a 35 minutes a night guy next year. You have a chance to get a young guy coming off injury to play 20 minutes a game next year behind a very good starter he can learn from, and not have the pressure on him to be the franchise savior.
Then after you get your five seed, and conclude a very successful season. You either thank Teague for the great season and give the keys to Exum. OR you know that Exum might not have what it takes, but lucky for you, we have first dibs on resigning Teague.

Now please tell me why you would be opposed to this. I ****ing love Burks, you all know I do. And I'd only include him in the deal as a last resort. But if I had to? Hell yes I would. Giving up a bench player for the above scenario? Definitely worth it. I'd start out by offering a collection of draft picks (which you guys put WAY to much value on) and Burke, and hope they become desperate.

Pennies on the dollar at the position of greatest need. The Jazz better get it done.

I need to see Neto attack more like he did last night, but I agree with the general sentiment here. If Teague is really available and at a somewhat discount I wouldn't overreact to one game.

Also, Teague may have an injury or he may be saying stuff because people are asking him about having reduced playing time and it is his excuse. His ankle looked fine last night.

I would still rather keep Alec than the GSW or OKC picks. I think he is much more valuable either in a trade or to the team than those picks.

Good posts

 

[silesian]

DL is probably offering Burke and a 2nd at this point. Actually that might be fair. They're getting a decent PG who is ok with playing backup - and one they'll control as a RFA. They're trading away a disgruntled employee. BTP is right. Others may make a silly trade. Jazz shouldn't overpay.

Spot on. Hawks are desperate to move him but everyone knows it. The only way they get value is if 2 teams are interested and start bidding war.

The Burks + multiple firsts is absolutely certifiably crazy. Thank God Lindsey has a brain and ignores some of his fans.

 

[silesian]

You are certifiably insane if you think Neto is the answer at point guard. I like him as a backup, but name one decent team in the league with a worse starting PG situation than us.

Here we have a chance to get an above average player at our worst position for pennies in the dollar. This is what we've been waiting for and you guys have such a hard on for our own players that you are blinded. So let me drop some hard truth on ya: Exum was a timid as **** player BEFORE he tore his ACL why would that change now? Hey, maybe he comes back and becomes the player we all want him to be. But to put all you eggs in that basket? Foolish.

And you know what wouldn't help? Having him be a 35 minutes a night guy next year. You have a chance to get a young guy coming off injury to play 20 minutes a game next year behind a very good starter he can learn from, and not have the pressure on him to be the franchise savior.
Then after you get your five seed, and conclude a very successful season. You either thank Teague for the great season and give the keys to Exum. OR you know that Exum might not have what it takes, but lucky for you, we have first dibs on resigning Teague.

Now please tell me why you would be opposed to this. I ****ing love Burks, you all know I do. And I'd only include him in the deal as a last resort. But if I had to? Hell yes I would. Giving up a bench player for the above scenario? Definitely worth it. I'd start out by offering a collection of draft picks (which you guys put WAY to much value on) and Burke, and hope they become desperate.

Pennies on the dollar at the position of greatest need. The Jazz better get it done.

Trading Burks/Burks (plus picks?) for Teague may fill one hole and create another bigger hole. Who scores off the bench? Teague will be traded for little value barring a stupid or desperate bidder. I'm in for Burke+2nd round. Burks + nothing or anything would be a steal for Atlanta and go down as an all-time terrible trade in Jazz history. And I'm no Burks homer and question his fit with Jazz system, I just think he has a lot more value than that.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Trading Burks/Burks (plus picks?) for Teague may fill one hole and create another bigger hole. Who scores off the bench? Teague will be traded for little value barring a stupid or desperate bidder. I'm in for Burke+2nd round. Burks + nothing or anything would be a steal for Atlanta and go down as an all-time terrible trade in Jazz history. And I'm no Burks homer and question his fit with Jazz system, I just think he has a lot more value than that.

Burks has more value than Teague in the minds of exactly one fanbase out of 30, and is a laughable notion in the other 29.

All time terrible deal? Come the **** on.

I love Burks and hope we don't lose him. But that was a bad post.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Burks has more value than Teague in the minds of exactly one fanbase out of 30, and is a laughable notion in the other 29.

All time terrible deal? Come the **** on.

I love Burks and hope we don't lose him. But that was a bad post.

Go listen to Salt City Hoops where they interviewed the hawks guy. When Larsen threw out Burks for Teague the Hawks guy couldn't say yes fast enough... I know he is just a truehoop reporter, but the contract stuff factors in and adds a lot more value to Burks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Burks has more value than Teague in the minds of exactly one fanbase out of 30, and is a laughable notion in the other 29.

All time terrible deal? Come the **** on.

I love Burks and hope we don't lose him. But that was a bad post.

If the Hawks really want to get rid of Teague, then Burks could be the best player they could get. He is on a reasonable contract and under contract for 3 more years. He also adds something they really dont have, which is a wing who can draw fouls and get to the FT line. I don't know if they would say if we offered, but what else are they getting from others?

 

[Bawse Dawg]

If the Hawks really want to get rid of Teague, then Burks could be the best player they could get. He is on a reasonable contract and under contract for 3 more years. He also adds something they really dont have, which is a wing who can draw fouls and get to the FT line. I don't know if they would say if we offered, but what else are they getting from others?

I'm not saying the Hawks wouldn't do it. But we have been put in a favorable position. I'm hoping the Hawks are desperate enough to take Burke and a couple picks. My point is that in no universe is Burks better than Teague AND Teague fills a much better need on our team. But you are correct that Burks may be a best case scenario for the Hawks who have made it clear that Teague is gone.

But if we get in a bidding war and it comes done to Burks or no deal? Do it.

 

[kabenac]

If there's going to be a trade one would think it would happen by now. To trade for a PG means a playoff push. And the sooner we upgrade the more games we would win = a better seed. To get that 6th seed would be ideal - wouldn't mind seeing us play OKC in the Playoffs. But if we wait too long and play the 1 or 2 seed it will likely be a sweep.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not saying the Hawks wouldn't do it. But we have been put in a favorable position. I'm hoping the Hawks are desperate enough to take Burke and a couple picks. My point is that in no universe is Burks better than Teague AND Teague fills a much better need on our team. But you are correct that Burks may be a best case scenario for the Hawks who have made it clear that Teague is gone.

But if we get in a bidding war and it comes done to Burks or no deal? Do it.

They aren't that desperate though. They could get a deal like Burke and a few meh picks next year for Teague.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If there's going to be a trade one would think it would happen by now. To trade for a PG means a playoff push. And the sooner we upgrade the more games we would win = a better seed. To get that 6th seed would be ideal - wouldn't mind seeing us play OKC in the Playoffs. But if we wait too long and play the 1 or 2 seed it will likely be a sweep.

No, most trades happen at the deadline. Both teams try to play hardball and get the best deal possible.

 

[The Midnight]

Go listen to Salt City Hoops where they interviewed the hawks guy. When Larsen threw out Burks for Teague the Hawks guy couldn't say yes fast enough... I know he is just a truehoop reporter, but the contract stuff factors in and adds a lot more value to Burks.

I feel like the Hawks relationship with Teague is a bit like the Jazz with Kanter last year (but not to the same extent of course). The Jazz had Kanter playing but we don't want to overpay his next contract, plus we have Gobert waiting in the wing. A bit like Teague and Schroeder waiting in the wing and Hawks not wanting to overpay Teague.


Are we prepared to pay Teague the big $$$ for his next contract (ala OKC and Kanter)? Because if we aren't, I don't know if getting a 1.5 year for him VS keeping Burks is a good deal.

 

[The Midnight]

They aren't that desperate though. They could get a deal like Burke and a few meh picks next year for Teague.

That's true... kinda like when we had to basically give away Kanter for a song. The longer we hold out the better the deal will be for us that's for sure.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They aren't that desperate though. They could get a deal like Burke and a few meh picks next year for Teague.

We have to find the sweet spot that gets them more than is available from others and more than they think they can get at the end of the year. Otherwise they aren't so desperate that they have to get rid of him. He's still contributing and isn't a cancer by any means. They will wait until the deadline for the best offer... you never know there may be an injury that opens up more options for them.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I feel like the Hawks relationship with Teague is a bit like the Jazz with Kanter last year (but not to the same extent of course). The Jazz had Kanter playing but we don't want to overpay his next contract, plus we have Gobert waiting in the wing. A bit like Teague and Schroeder waiting in the wing and Hawks not wanting to overpay Teague.


Are we prepared to pay Teague the big $$$ for his next contract (ala OKC and Kanter)? Because if we aren't, I don't know if getting a 1.5 year for him VS keeping Burks is a good deal.

No. Teague is a rental while Exum gets back up to speed. Dante is not going to be ready for 30+ mins and a starting job right away. Teague would be very nice to have for the playoffs this season and then splitting time with Exum next year. The offer should be Burke + the GS pick. W hile Teague hasn't copped the public attitude that Kanter did, the situation is still similar. Everyone knows he wants out and that Atlanta wants to move him. DL should sit tight on his offer. And if Atlanta keeps him or he's traded elsewhere? I'm ok with that - especially given the way Neto performed against Chicago.

 

[The Midnight]

No. Teague is a rental while Exum gets back up to speed. Dante is not going to be ready for 30+ mins and a starting job right away. Teague would be very nice to have for the playoffs this season and then splitting time with Exum next year. The offer should be Burke + the GS pick. W hile Teague hasn't copped the public attitude that Kanter did, the situation is still similar. Everyone knows he wants out and that Atlanta wants to move him. DL should sit tight on his offer. And if Atlanta keeps him or he's traded elsewhere? I'm ok with that - especially given the way Neto performed against Chicago.

I'm slowly coming around to this Burke plus GSM pick as well. They are desperate so we don't need to give up Burks.


Same situation we were with Kanter we were desperate and they got Kanter for a song.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm slowly coming around to this Burke plus GSM pick as well. They are desperate so we don't need to give up Burks.


Same situation we were with Kanter we were desperate and they got Kanter for a song.

And I'm slowly coming around to viewing Neto as a viable 2nd-string PG. While I would hope the Jazz go after Conley (if no deal is made for Teague), I'm also ok with rolling into next year with the status quo at PG. Exum can ease back into the lineup and then Burke is tradeable at the deadline. Utah should get a nice asset with their pick this summer, so Burke, Lyles and whoever they get would be pretty decent trade chips.

 

[GVC]

Why would they want Burke? They have Mack and Schroeder.

 

[silesian]

Burks has more value than Teague in the minds of exactly one fanbase out of 30, and is a laughable notion in the other 29.

All time terrible deal? Come the **** on.

I love Burks and hope we don't lose him. But that was a bad post.

Thank you. I feel the same way about the quality of your post, perhaps stronger.

Glad you are not in the Jazz front office, you'd be throwing away value. The Hawks would be thrilled with Burks for Teague but Lindsey is much smarter than that.

 

[silesian]

My point is that in no universe is Burks better than Teague AND Teague fills a much better need on our team.

Now I see what you are missing. The fact that Burks is not better than Teague is irrelevant. The fact that Teague can be had for less than Burks is the point.