that foul on Rudy

[colton]

I was shocked when Denver fouled Rudy before the ball was in play, towards the end of the game last night, because I thought that resulted in a technical foul. Yet no technical foul was called.

I thought maybe I misremembered the rule, or maybe they had changed it, so I did some searching and came across this: https://videorulebook.nba.com/archi...nded-defender-grabs-offensive-players-jersey/

The play was definitely in the last 2 minutes (0;46 remaining according to the ESPN game log), so I'm absolutely correct. The Jazz should have been awarded a technical free throw and gotten the ball back.

How could the refs have screwed up that badly? And how could the announcers not have commented on it? Why is no one else outraged? (Granted we won the game.) Or am I missing something? What gives?

 

[Willie G.]

This was during a free-throw shot by Denver, right? If so, then it isn't the same as being fouled on an in-bound play. The call was right, iirc

 

[The Midnight]

Saw this last night and thought it was strange too. But in a FT situation when does the ball become 'live'? Is it as soon as the ball leaves the hand of the FT shooter? Or when it hits the rim?

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYZpnF5NlY

 

[Game6Conley]

Not to be confused with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBVLLRrS9Ss

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpUUAGK8mkg

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGl9I5DSSj8

 

[colton]

This was during a free-throw shot by Denver, right? If so, then it isn't the same as being fouled on an in-bound play. The call was right, iirc

Denver made the free throw, so it immediately became an in-bound play the second the ball went through the hoop. Wasn't Gobert fouled directly after the free throw went in? Or are you saying he was fouled right before it went in? I guess I'm not sure.

 

[Maneesh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYZpnF5NlY

These fouls should be flagrants! No play on the ball and could injur players no matter how big.

 

[Willie G.]

Denver made the free throw, so it immediately became an in-bound play the second the ball went through the hoop. Wasn't Gobert fouled directly after the free throw went in? Or are you saying he was fouled right before it went in? I guess I'm not sure.

wasn't he fouled as the free throw was in the air? This same thing happened in another game a few days ago. Same call was made.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It something that should be addressed in rule changes, but as of now it's legal.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This was during a free-throw shot by Denver, right? If so, then it isn't the same as being fouled on an in-bound play. The call was right, iirc

No, its the same as being fouled on a loose ball.

 

[Maneesh]

I wonder what can happen player is run down court and just jump on player back and for no reasons? I think they can say it is flagrant, but why not when they can do it free throws? It takes one tim eplayer gets injured and this will be immediate change SHAME DAVID SILVER!!!! Protect NBA PLAYER NOW!

 

[candrew]

Like the refs say "on the release".

Play is live when the ball leaves the shooter's hand.

 

[JazzyFresh]

EXCEPTION: Rule 12A--Section I.
i. Anyone guilty of illegal contact which occurs during a dead ball may be assessed (1) a technical foul, if the contact is deemed to be unsportsmanlike in nature, or (2) a flagrant foul, if unnecessary and/or excessive contact occurs.

 

[Boris]

These fouls should be flagrants! No play on the ball and could injur players no matter how big.

You are white i can tell. White people think every contact is flagrant. This is why you cannot fight.

 

[Biggs]

You are white i can tell. White people think every contact is flagrant. This is why you cannot fight.

Matt Hughes, Conner Mcgregor, GSP, Rich Franklin, Luke Rockhold, Chris Wiedman, you get the point would all disagree with this statement

 

[fishonjazz]

You are white i can tell. White people think every contact is flagrant. This is why you cannot fight.

Hi naos

 

[hgb]

Denver made the free throw, so it immediately became an in-bound play the second the ball went through the hoop. Wasn't Gobert fouled directly after the free throw went in? Or are you saying he was fouled right before it went in? I guess I'm not sure.

I think the reasoning is that when the ball leaves the shooter's hands, the ball is live. The fight for rebounding position is definitely already on, so a fould could be called. Dellavadova did this a number of times going over the back of Bogut IIRC.

Edit: Too late...

 

[Willie G.]

Hi naos

@ElRoach0: is fishonjazz talking about the same thing?