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Miggs

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really better for the environment than just using a couple paper towels?

I'm not trying to be funny here. I feel like, despite being called energy efficient, those blowers expend a lot of energy each use while instead we could use 2-3 paper towels which uses no energy/electricity. We can plant trees too to replenish those cut down and used for those paper towels. We can't reverse energy usage.

Discuss.
 
What if the building is solar/wind generated power? That answer is obviously yes.
 
There should be some qualifiers to this question. For example, the Dyson air blade is super efficient and actually dries your hands. Most others are not great.
 
Other than providing noise interference for the occasional high speed wet diarrhea fart, the hand dryer serves little tangible purpose.
 
There should be some qualifiers to this question. For example, the Dyson air blade is super efficient and actually dries your hands. Most others are not great.

Yes. Anything besides an air blade sucks at drying, let alone their level of energy consuming. It's nice that you care for the environment instead of your budget. Because most do not do that in here.

Me for example use the toilet paper many times as I fold it's poopy part close with the non poop-touched part to make some economy and contribute to the ecosystem.
 
Me for example use the toilet paper many times as I fold it's poopy part close with the non poop-touched part to make some economy and contribute to the ecosystem.
Wow, thank you sir.
 
There is a drier called xlerator that is actually pretty decent. It's not exactly the airblade, but its better than those piece of poop world driers.
 
There is a drier called xlerator that is actually pretty decent. It's not exactly the airblade, but its better than those piece of poop world driers.
That thing is powerful as hell
 
There is a drier called xlerator that is actually pretty decent. It's not exactly the airblade, but its better than those piece of poop world driers.

This is the one I used recently that made me wonder how energy efficient it really was.
 
Think of all the energy that goes into manufacturing and distributing those paper towels. There is more to them than just cutting down trees. There is a lot of coal and oil involved too.
 
There is a drier called xlerator that is actually pretty decent. It's not exactly the airblade, but its better than those piece of poop world driers.
My favorites are the hand driers with the detailed instructions where some geniuses have figured out how to scratch out certain letters in order to make a much better set of instructions.
XJCjCnO.jpg

A little part of me dies every time I see one of those awesome machines replaced.
 
really better for the environment than just using a couple paper towels?

I'm not trying to be funny here. I feel like, despite being called energy efficient, those blowers expend a lot of energy each use while instead we could use 2-3 paper towels which uses no energy/electricity. We can plant trees too to replenish those cut down and used for those paper towels. We can't reverse energy usage.

Discuss.

I'm in environmental and study econ as a hobby. I highly doubt they're not more efficient. I also doubt they make enough of an appreciable difference to matter. I hate the things as well (wet hands pet peeve).

I read a NBER study a while back that claimed that walking more than approximately 2 miles a day was more invasive to the environment than driving a car to work due to need.

There is a whole lot involved in the paper making process, from heavy equipment cutting down trees to sodium hydroxide and sodium sulfate production involved to make white liquor, which is then used in the pulp and thus paper production process...

Each of these steps require energy to produce and transport. I've toured the largest North American paper producing plant several times, and it has to consume a load of energy. Then they have to put the stuff on rails and trucks to get to the end destination. Plus all the calories burned by all those drivers...


I doubt you would be able to find a comprehensive study to prove it either way, but there's way too many variables to calculate it accurately. How many paper towels end up going to waste-to-energy plants? Do they actually produce carbon gasses upon decomposition? What about all those oil-based plastic bags that collect your paper towels? What power source(s) are running the electric dryers? How efficient is the grid? Is the power coming from 300 miles away and losing %%% of joules along the way?


There are 3 places to put waste. In the water, soil, and air. It's also easiest to control waste at the production level, which is what we mainly do. Think federal CAFE standards (we have a ton of regulations for other private sector, public-private, and public sectors such as the military). It's a lot easier to control pollution/energy input at the power plant/manufacturing level than at the distribution, consumption, and waste levels. The energy grid has a profit motive to increase efficiency; individuals don't have so much incentive with a 1/10th of a cent paper towel.


tl;dnr

Short answer: Yes.
 
My favorites are the hand driers with the detailed instructions where some geniuses have figured out how to scratch out certain letters in order to make a much better set of instructions.
XJCjCnO.jpg

A little part of me dies every time I see one of those awesome machines replaced.
Holy crap. I laughed so hard at that picture. One of the best things ever
 
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