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yup. Most of the people who are getting their *** lit here are politicians like the Icelandic PM who "raise taxes" to pay for **** when their embezzling **** on their own. Flies in the face of the trustworthiness of big gov.

God bless the internet & the 4th estate.

To me in confirms their level of trustworthiness.
 
To me in confirms their level of trustworthiness.

Can't treat this in binaries. Corruption doesn't go absent as governments get smaller. Oligarchies and fascism take hold.
 
Imo, centralizing more government to the federal level creates both greater government inefficiencies (in a more one-size-fits-all way) and allows for more unchecked unscrupulousness... as opposed to smaller fed/larger local.

I know the flip side arguments, just stating my opinion.
I just don't care any more, though, as I've kind of lost any faith whatsoever, of Americans truly holding elected officials accountable. Hint: it's much more than just voting.
 
Imo, centralizing more government to the federal level creates both greater government inefficiencies (in a more one-size-fits-all way) and allows for more unchecked unscrupulousness... as opposed to smaller fed/larger local.

I know the flip side arguments, just stating my opinion.
I just don't care any more, though, as I've kind of lost any faith whatsoever, of Americans truly holding elected officials accountable. Hint: it's much more than just voting.

A big first step would be making campaign financing public so the US congress doesn't spend 50% of their hours calling rich ppl asking for donations.
 
A big first step would be making campaign financing public so the US congress doesn't spend 50% of their hours calling rich ppl asking for donations.

Haha.. good point.
However, the other 50% is calls to people readily willing to be accepting government handouts.. as a career choice.

Not a great recipe for a strong middle class.
 
Haha.. good point.
However, the other 50% is calls to people readily willing to be accepting government handouts.. as a career choice.

Not a great recipe for a strong middle class.

Seems to work as a good recipe in every other developed country.
 
Iceland's PM just resigned.

#PanamaPapers claimed its first victim what, 48 hours after their release?
 
Well, I'm glad we have some hard data to back up what we all already knew at least. Obviously will become more interesting to me personally when the US list comes out (I've heard within the next couple of weeks). Not sure what to expect from that, but should be interesting.

Have heard that it looks like the Pirate Party could be the ones who move into power in Iceland, that'd be their first big move anywhere I think.
 
Fascinating stuff. Chinese government has blacked out the topic, essentially making all news references to Panama papers illegal.
 
I really want some of these folks to face prison sentences. Resigning is not punishment.
 
Well, I'm glad we have some hard data to back up what we all already knew at least. Obviously will become more interesting to me personally when the US list comes out (I've heard within the next couple of weeks). Not sure what to expect from that, but should be interesting.

Have heard that it looks like the Pirate Party could be the ones who move into power in Iceland, that'd be their first big move anywhere I think.

whats the pirate party?
 
Haha.. good point.
However, the other 50% is calls to people readily willing to be accepting government handouts.. as a career choice.

Not a great recipe for a strong middle class.

Can't tell if you are joking or not.

If not, do you really think that 50% of the country lives on gov handouts as a career choice, and those people essentially vote as a bloc?
 
whats the pirate party?

Not an expert by any means, but my impression is a political party that's primary focuses are: government transparency, limiting censorship (especially over the internet), and repeal of many copyright laws(where the "piracy" comes from). Iceland is the only place they poll well that I've heard, so this would be their first real test.
 
Ok. I read it that way, but I wasn't sure what you meant. How you been bro? I went to Zion with my family this last week. The weather down there was awesome.

I didn't say I explained myself well, though..

Things are good bro. Slept in my truck on the AZ strip at the grand canyon for a good time.
Leaving for fishing the Florida Keys next week for a couple weeks. Stoked. <--- not to be confused with [MENTION=1988]Stoked[/MENTION]

Yeah, the weather had been bitchin.

You? How's your weather?
 
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