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Despite not being a Mack fan, I have to say that he was the only Jazz player that played with playoff intensity yesterday.
 
dipship31 said:
FUUUUUU I just thought back on the sequence when we were down 2 and Hayward pulled up for a running 3, misses, and then freakin Wes buries a contested 3 in our faces.
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That was the killer. Burks had two steals, one that led to a Hayward transition layup and one that led to the beautiful no look pass from Burks to Booker in transition. That missed 3 kind of broke me. Even though we were still close I kind of had this hopeless feeling right after
 
mellow said:
So now I will be cheering for Washington and Chicago to win their last game. Jazz could jump to 12th! 0.025 chance at a top three pick!
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Good call.
 
Batman said:
I agree G time is not a number 1 option, so what should the Jazz do? Do you think they should trade Hayward or Favors and try to find that tier 1 star?
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Yes.
They should always be trying to get a star in some way. Whether trade, draft, or free agency.
Easier said than done though
 
Diamond77 said:
Despite not being a Mack fan, I have to say that he was the only Jazz player that played with playoff intensity yesterday.
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Its hard to be intense when you brick so many 3s.

Our defense was phenomenal given our injuries and we looked like we had energy whenever we pushed.

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The Thriller said:
Pretty sure this is what most jazz fans were saying last year.
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Yes it was. And would have been true if not for an abnormally high amount of injuries
 
Diamond77 said:
Despite not being a Mack fan, I have to say that he was the only Jazz player that played with playoff intensity yesterday.
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He has been in the playoffs before. The only player on the team.

No, I don't consider Hayward and Favors with coach Corbin being swept by the Spurs actual playoff experience.
 
King Cy said:
Not really put him on a team that rubs and has an offense that doesn't operate in the late shot clock and see what he can do.

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Maybe right, maybe not. Hard to say how he would do elsewhere but for the jazz his shooting percentages from the field and from three need to be better. Maybe it's for the reasons you say though.

He just doesn't seem to have "it" from my vantage point.

I watch him try to dribble penetrate and it seems like he bumps into every player on the defense, defensive hands are all over the ball, defenders kind of magnetize and stick to him. It's looks so difficult for him to get a good shot off and to his credit he makes all kinds of tough of balance step back crazy tough shots... But it looks so difficult for him.

Then I watch hood penetrate and he seems to slide passed guys rather than getting stuck in them and bumping everyone and defenders are not getting hands on the ball and are not all over him and then he is able to elevate and get a good look pretty much every time. He just needs to be better at making those good looks but it seems so easy for him and so difficult for hayward.
 
Hayward is a great all around player. But how could anyone argue that he's an elite scorer, no matter the system?

We've been watching him for years. His drives to the basket are often clumsy and slow. And he's an average at best 3 pt shooter. These are not traits of an elite scorer.
 
fishonjazz said:
Maybe right, maybe not. Hard to say how he would do elsewhere but for the jazz his shooting percentages from the field and from three need to be better. Maybe it's for the reasons you say though.

He just doesn't seem to have "it" from my vantage point.

I watch him try to dribble penetrate and it seems like he bumps into every player on the defense, defensive hands are all over the ball, defenders kind of magnetize and stick to him. It's looks so difficult for him to get a good shot off and to his credit he makes all kinds of tough of balance step back crazy tough shots... But it looks so difficult for him.

Then I watch hood penetrate and he seems to slide passed guys rather than getting stuck in them and bumping everyone and defenders are not getting hands on the ball and are not all over him and then he is able to elevate and get a good look pretty much every time. He just needs to be better at making those good looks but it seems so easy for him and so difficult for hayward.
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And Hood draws close to 0 shooting fouls and often get his shot blocked at the rim if he doesnt pump fake pivot.

Hayward bumps into people on purpose, I just think his foot issues slowed him down a bit later in the year.

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King Cy said:
And Hood draws close to 0 shooting fouls and often get his shot blocked at the rim if he doesnt pump fake pivot.

Hayward bumps into people on purpose, I just think his foot issues slowed him down a bit later in the year.

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True.
 
I guess I just feel like when I watch most great players playing great they make the game look so easy. They stand out.
With Hayward, even when he is playing great the game looks difficult and he is simply overcoming the difficulties and just outworking guys. The game rarely looks easy.

Though maybe things would change for him with better teammates and gameplan and pace. Idk I just know what i have watched in the last few years.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Hayward is a great all around player. But how could anyone argue that he's an elite scorer, no matter the system?

We've been watching him for years. His drives to the basket are often clumsy and slow. And he's an average at best 3 pt shooter. These are not traits of an elite scorer.
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Pretty much how I feel
 
I really feel like Favors is available for the right price. The jazz will go with the space-and-pace style. It's what Q and DL can't help but gravitate towards. That means Gobert or Favors is out; and I think it'll be Favors. He could bring back a nice package.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Hayward is a great all around player. But how could anyone argue that he's an elite scorer, no matter the system?

We've been watching him for years. His drives to the basket are often clumsy and slow. And he's an average at best 3 pt shooter. These are not traits of an elite scorer.
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I think the same...that's why I would be ok if the Jazz decide to trade him this offseason.
 
NAOS said:
I really feel like Favors is available for the right price. The jazz will go with the space-and-pace style. It's what Q and DL can't help but gravitate towards. That means Gobert or Favors is out; and I think it'll be Favors. He could bring back a nice package.
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Would love for favors to fetch us an all star point guard.

Cp3 would look great with his search dribble and then throwing the lob to Rudy, kicking out to hood/lyles/ Hayward, or shooting the floater.

Plays good defense and has experience and leadership.

A guy can dream.
 
fishonjazz said:
Would love for favors to fetch us an all star point guard.

Cp3 would look great with his search dribble and then throwing the lob to Rudy, kicking out to hood/lyles/ Hayward, or shooting the floater.

Plays good defense and has experience and leadership.

A guy can dream.
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pls no
 
mellow said:
He has been in the playoffs before. The only player on the team.

No, I don't consider Hayward and Favors with coach Corbin being swept by the Spurs actual playoff experience.
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but you consider his 239 minutes as a 12th man (if he were a starter, that would equate to ~6 games) exponentially better?
 
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