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Should the Jazz persue DeRozan?

King Cy said:
All those teams you mentioned have one of them that is an above average shooter at one of the big positions.
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Ya and I think favors can be an above average shooter from mid range which is why is said favors needs to get better shooting wise and that he needs to get better a little farther out too
 
fishonjazz said:
As for the notion that teams aren't/cant play 2 bigs together (like the jazz) in the nba anymore.... lets look at the teams remaining.

Cavs start two 6 foot 10 guys. One of them is a great shooter and the other is horrible. (thompson and love)
Raptors start a 7 footer and a 6 foot 10 guy. Ones a shooter and one isn't. (patterson and valancunas)
A healthy miami team would start a 6 foot 11 guy and a 7 footer. (bosh and whiteside)
OKC starts a 6 foot 10 guy and a 7 footer. (adams and ibaka)
portland starts a 6 foot 9 guys and a 6 foot 11 guy. (aminu and plumlee) (their depth chart actually lists noah vonleh at the 4 instead of aminu)
Spurs start a 7 footer and a 6 foot 11 guy (aldridge and duncan)
Even the anti big man warriors start a 7 footer and one of the biggest 6 foot 7 guys in the league. (bogut and green)

So right now in the playoffs we have 8 guys at 6 foot 11 or taller (counting if bosh were healthy though) and 4 guys that are 6 foot 10. Only 2 bigs under 6 foot 10. Out of a total possible of 14 bigs.
Lots of big guys. 8 of them are not three point threats. (and ibaka who im counting as a three point threat shot .326 from three in the regular season this year)
Patterson, love, green and bosh are all legit three point threats. Ibaka kinda is.

Favors needs to be able to step out a bit more and be a more consistant outside shooter. That would help a lot. And having a point guard who scares teams from three. Hopefully exum becomes a good three point shooter.
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I think the whole point was about floor spreading, brough. Not about the measurement from the floor to the top of someone's head.
 
NAOS said:
I think the whole point was about floor spreading, brough. Not about the measurement from the floor to the top of someone's head.
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Yep. Most of those teams have a guy who doesn't spread the floor at all and another guy who does. Here's to hoping that favors can improve his floor spreading.
If not then we maybe move on to lyles.

If favors could just spread the floor as good as aldridge and our perimeter guys get better at shooting the three then I think that would be good enough to go along with our fantastic defense.
 
Favors will never spread the floor as well as Aldridge. I say that as a supporter of Favors.
 
I've liked Derozan for a long time, even before he signed his last deal that everyone said was a bad deal.
So part of me wants to see him sign here, but I don't think it's the best move. His playoff play has me worried
 
I would rather have DeRozan with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes of a game than Hayward. Hayward plays effectively most of the game, but is consistently terrible at the end of close games which is why our record is so bad in close ones.
 
Crawlnstall said:
I've liked Derozan for a long time, even before he signed his last deal that everyone said was a bad deal.
So part of me wants to see him sign here, but I don't think it's the best move. His playoff play has me worried
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Also have to look at who he is going against. Wade is one of the best ever in postseason play. That has been where he has made his name as a bball player. He is also a vet. Hard matchup for DD, IMO
 
The Heat al9t of the game plays 4 wings and Whiteside. Small ball might not be the starting lineups but it is the way people are playing now. It is about who is on the court at the end. Bogut starts for the GSw but he is on the bench and Green is playing center in crunch time most of the time.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Also have to look at who he is going against. Wade is one of the best ever in postseason play. That has been where he has made his name as a bball player. He is also a vet. Hard matchup for DD, IMO
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How did derozan do in his first round matchup?
 
Derozan for his career in the playoffs (3 seasons) is shooting 36% from the field and 27% from three.
Efg% of 38%.
Not stellar
 
Derozan with basically a DNP-CD in the 4th tonight. Only got in because Lowry fouled out. Not a good sign if you're ultimate goal is to win playoff games.


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fishonjazz said:
Derozan for his career in the playoffs (3 seasons) is shooting 36% from the field and 27% from three.
Efg% of 38%.
Not stellar
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It has been rough for him. I think he is trying to do too much and defenses are getting tighter on him. He is having a rough series but somehow they won the first series and are still tied in this series, which is surprising since Lowry is struggling so much as well. I think Lowry struggles have effected DeRozan as well. Same thing happened last year after he put up great numbers the first 2 games and they lost because Lowry was awful then he died off. This years stats are bringing down his overall playoff stats though. He has played as many playoffs games this year as the rest of his career. Lillard is shooting 36 percent this playoffs though so only 1 percent better than that career #. A bad playoffs is unfortunate but it happens to plenty of players.

DeRozan would be an upgrade for the Jazz roster if we got lucky and could get him. We would have a better starting unit, he would make the rest of the team better and a much better bench for us. I do think there might be other options to look at first but I wouldnt say no to DeRozan or not pursue him unless we can land something bigger, which is also very unlikely. Maybe a bad playoffs is the luck we need to land him or a player of his lvl. He was the best player on a team that is in the second round of the playoffs and has a decent chance to get his team to the Eastern Finals, especially if he can have a big game or 2. He lead his team to 56 wins. I think we would be pretty excited about our future if we got him and we got to 56 wins next year. We have a better roster than Toronto if we have him. We also have more potential.
 
default said:
I would rather have DeRozan with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes of a game than Hayward. Hayward plays effectively most of the game, but is consistently terrible at the end of close games which is why our record is so bad in close ones.
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Just your opinion after watching them both in clutch moments this season or any stats to back that up? Not an argument a genuine question I thought Hayward played about average at end game situations as he did throughout the games this year. He was pretty good at times and made a few mistakes here and there. Hayward definitely looked worse towards the end of the season but I think the combination of being worn out, frustrated and injured played into that. I think that gave Jazz fans a bad taste in their mouth to end the year. I definitely think our team is better with DeRozan and takes a lot of pressure of Hayward.
 
default said:
I would rather have DeRozan with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes of a game than Hayward. Hayward plays effectively most of the game, but is consistently terrible at the end of close games which is why our record is so bad in close ones.
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You don't really know very much about basketball do you
 
default said:
I would rather have DeRozan with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes of a game than Hayward. Hayward plays effectively most of the game, but is consistently terrible at the end of close games which is why our record is so bad in close ones.
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You don't really know very much about basketball do you
 
default said:
I would rather have DeRozan with the ball in his hands in the final 2 minutes of a game than Hayward. Hayward plays effectively most of the game, but is consistently terrible at the end of close games which is why our record is so bad in close ones.
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Hayward was one of the top rated players in the clutch. That was when he was at his very best. WTH were u watching??
 
I like DDR, but not sure he is a max player. A #2 option shouldn't be a max player by definition, especially under the new pay scale.
 
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