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So in all seriousness, do the Jazz really have the backbone to pull the trigger on Thon Maker at 12? Or do the Jazz just view him as a 2nd rd prospect at 42?
 
Catchall said:
True, but a) Hayward is a better overall player than Favors, and b) Lyles is going to start taking minutes from Favors this season, whereas Hayward doesn't have anyone challenging him for minutes at the SF.


A line-up with Exum/Murray/Hayward/Lyles/Gobert with Hood and Davis/Maker coming off the bench is a good, balanced line-up.
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Well, you and I differ on various players' value. I think Hood is pretty close to Hayward quality: somedays better, somedays not, but overall the same inconsistency as Hayward, with the possibility of being more consistent than Hayward going forward.

I like Lyles but defensively he's more significant drop-off from Favors than Hood is from Hayward. I know I'm fighting the general opinion of Hayward as some kind of All-star (doubtful), but I think people's minds have been swayed by the constant pro-Hayward propaganda. And don't get me wrong, Hayward's good - better this last year than ever before. But he's not as good as everyone at 1280thezone are saying. I'm not convinced.
 
BENTLEY said:
Well, you and I differ on various players' value. I think Hood is pretty close to Hayward quality: somedays better, somedays not, but overall the same inconsistency as Hayward, with the possibility of being more consistent than Hayward going forward.

I like Lyles but defensively he's more significant drop-off from Favors than Hood is from Hayward. I know I'm fighting the general opinion of Hayward as some kind of All-star (doubtful), but I think people's minds have been swayed by the constant pro-Hayward propaganda. And don't get me wrong, Hayward's good - better this last year than ever before. But he's not as good as everyone at 1280thezone are saying. I'm not convinced.
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stormkoopacv03 said:
So in all seriousness, do the Jazz really have the backbone to pull the trigger on Thon Maker at 12? Or do the Jazz just view him as a 2nd rd prospect at 42?
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Probably will do the same thing they did with Gobert. Buy a pick and grab him. Or something along those lines.
 
Tony said:
Probably will do the same thing they did with Gobert. Buy a pick and grab him. Or something along those lines.
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It's not a strong draft at the top, but I like the quality of bigs throughout the first round. I really hope that they do buy a pick for a guy like Labissierie, or Zizic, or Maker, or Qi, or Stone, or Corneille, etc. Take a guy that needs some patience and make him the Star player for the Stars this year.
 
Jazz4ever said:
New mock at DX. Baldwin moves up to our slot. Furkan and Luwawu sliding a little. Valentine drops 8 spots to 20. Malachi and Thon still not cracking the first round.

https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
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Another interesting thing is Baldwin's teammate Jones, who I have been signing the praises of being just as good if not better than Skal/Thon, has also moved up to 14.
 
Just watched some highlights of Tyler Ullis, the game just comes natural to the kid and he has skills that will translate to the NBA, I really like him.

This mock has the jazz taking him at 12:
https://fansided.com/2016/04/28/2016-nba-mock-draft-brandon-ingram-new-number-one-pick/13/

This was originally where Ivan Rabb was slated to go, but with him no longer available to consider, the Jazz might try to look to solve their point guard hole instead. Tyler Ulis is a hard player to get a read on when it comes to draft position. He has the raw talent of a potential lottery pick, but concerns about his three-point shooting and his height mean that he could fall a little bit in the draft.

Ulis’s motor and defensive IQ mean that he’s the rare undersized guard who will be able to contribute some on the defensive end. Ulis will likely need to guard exclusively smaller guards, but he has excellent lateral quickness and lightning quick hands, which should allow him to generate steals at a good rate and keep him from getting beaten off the dribble by stronger guards. That should be enough to allow him to stay on the floor for the offensive end, where he has a solid skill set.

Ulis can attack off the dribble well, and he made significant strides this year at finishing against contact, something that he will have to do because of his size. He also is one of this draft’s best playmakers, posting a 34.3 percent assist rate and finding roll men, cutters, and shooters well off of the pick and roll. His court vision in the open floor is also very solid, and he should be a nice change of pace guy thanks to his speed and activity with the ball in his hands.

With Utah, Ulis could fill the drive-and-kick role that Trey Burke has struggled in. The Jazz could also be a good situation for him defensively, as the Jazz have plenty of length and the league’s best rim protector in Rudy Gobert. They could hide Ulis if the team is facing a bigger point guard, and their team defense could allow Ulis to sit back and gamble a little bit, knowing they have size and the discipline to compensate.
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prodigy said:
Just watched some highlights of Tyler Ullis, the game just comes natural to the kid and he has skills that will translate to the NBA, I really like him.

This mock has the jazz taking him at 12:
https://fansided.com/2016/04/28/2016-nba-mock-draft-brandon-ingram-new-number-one-pick/13/
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Doesn't make much sense with the way Quin wants to play defense. He doesn't want to HIDE our PG, that's why Burke was out of the rotation the moment Quin could use another PG who can switch on the perimeter. He wants to be able to switch everything and be relatively comfortable with all switches. You cannot do that with 5'9'', 150lbs PG.
 
What stitches said. I think we've seen enough of PGs that need to be hidden defensively. What a huge difference in the team having a defensive PG compared to an offensive one (cough) that needs to be hidden defensively.
 
Catchall said:
Here's the annual controversial draft-day trade idea:

--Jazz move Derrick Favors for a top-4 pick, draft Murray or Hield
--Jazz stay at 12, draft Chriss, Davis, Maker or Skal

Why? Because Lyles can start at the 4. Favors is only average and is replaceable as a C and is otherwise too good to be a back-up PF. Jazz can pick up a back-up big in free agency.

Jazz come away with two players who have All Star or borderline All Star potential to put next to Gobert, Exum, Hood, Lyles and Hayward.
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I like you catch, but my God. Draft fever is inevitable, I understand, for many fans. Maybe you should lie down.
 
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