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Hantlers said:
I would be very happy with Jimmer as our 2nd pick. I'd like to use him like the Mavs use Jason Terry. Play him 20-30 minutes and just let him worry about scoring, we could really use his offensive boost off the bench. With the 1st pick I'd obviously be happy with Irving, but that's a pipedream. I'd be happy with Barnes and Kanter though. Wish this draft was just a bit stronger this year since we're gonna have 2 lottery picks.
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I would love to get Barnes and Kanter. More than giving up a pick to move up to get Irving. Give me a good PG, but not a max money one. Max money PGs don't win championships.
But getting both Barnes and Kanter seems too good to be true. Might get one of them with the Jersey pick. And Jimmer with the second pick would be nice consolation prize. Things looks good. The Jazz are doing their part. Now if only Jersey would go back to losing games.
 
You're right, I didn't see the game. I didn't know he had a good one until in caught up on this thread. Obviously this will raise his stock.
 
I noticed Barnes sneaking in and stealing rebounds away from guys. It was some nice hustle play. He's better than CJ.
 
BENTLEY said:
I would love to get Barnes and Kanter. More than giving up a pick to move up to get Irving. Give me a good PG, but not a max money one. Max money PGs don't win championships.
But getting both Barnes and Kanter seems too good to be true. Might get one of them with the Jersey pick. And Jimmer with the second pick would be nice consolation prize. Things looks good. The Jazz are doing their part. Now if only Jersey would go back to losing games.
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Oh yeah, I didn't mean to say that we would get both Barnes and Kanter. I meant either Barnes or Kanter, obviously there's no chance that we get both of them. Hell, there's a decent chance we get neither of them.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see a single franchise player in this draft? There is not a single "can't miss" prospect. IMO we should shop our picks for someone(s) more proven. At least shop one of them.
 
I still think that Terrence Jones will have a better pro career than Barnes, because Jones is quicker and more athletic. Jones still needs to put it together though.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't see a single franchise player in this draft? There is not a single "can't miss" prospect. IMO we should shop our picks for someone(s) more proven. At least shop one of them.
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Everyone thinks Irving is can't-miss.
Derrick Williams sure looks like a 20 pt. scorer to me.
Kanter looks like a steady double double.
Terrence Jones is the kind of guy who would have gone lottery out of high school.
Barnes is a safe pick.....has anyone compared him to Luol Deng yet?
Jan Vesely is Europe's imitation of Kevin Durant. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zlB5w08_Es)

I'd be chipper with any of these. If we could get two of them, we'd really be in business.
 
Catchall said:
I still think that Terrence Jones will have a better pro career than Barnes, because Jones is quicker and more athletic. Jones still needs to put it together though.
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Terrence Jones has horrible shooting mechanics. He is strong as a bull but I haven't seen him jump out of the gym yet. Matter of fact he has had several shots block taking it to the basket. Harris already has a professional jumpshot. Harris needs to work on his body but he has the skills to make jumpshots which is huge in the NBA.
 
There's a reason why none of you should ever be GMs in this league.

Right before the half, Barnes had 1 point and 0 FGs made.

With 7 mins left he has a whole 9 points.

And some of you think this is our savior? Against such elite defenders as Singler and other white boys from dukie university? The same school that has brought us such devastating players such as Boozer, Danny Ferry, and Jay Williams?

You people are dumbasses.

Then again, he'd fit right in with CJ, AK, and Raja. He bricked a ton of jumpshots in the first half which helped bury his team, is continually chucking away as his team falls behind by double digits, and isn't playing a lick of defense.

Yes. Get us Barnes. He alone will prevent us from being in the lottery again next year. He will own Kobe and Lebron and we'll win the NBA championship next year. for sure...
 
The Thriller said:
There's a reason why none of you should ever be GMs in this league.

Right before the half, Barnes had 1 point and 0 FGs made.

With 7 mins left he has a whole 9 points.

And some of you think this is our savior? Against such elite defenders as Singler and other white boys from dukie university? The same school that has brought us such devastating players such as Boozer, Danny Ferry, and Jay Williams?

You people are dumbasses.

Then again, he'd fit right in with CJ, AK, and Raja. He bricked a ton of jumpshots in the first half which helped bury his team, is continually chucking away as his team falls behind by double digits, and isn't playing a lick of defense.

Yes. Get us Barnes. He alone will prevent us from being in the lottery again next year. He will own Kobe and Lebron and we'll win the NBA championship next year. for sure...
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Your hyperbole is so tiring, and not funny at all. Plus, who would listen to your draft advice? Even after two name changes everyone still remembers.
 
Marty McFly said:
Your hyperbole is so tiring, and not funny at all. Plus, who would listen to your draft advice? Even after two name changes everyone still remembers.
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LOL

Defend your boy.

You point the finger at me, I'm calling your boy out. Defend him. I want to know why the Jazz should draft this guy. Sure, he had a great game a night ago, dumping 40. Today? an equally horrible game. Defend your boy. If he can't score on Singler, what makes you think he can score on NBA players?
 
Thriller, you are beyond dumb if you don't think Barnes will be a special player. He has single handily carried the UNC team over the past couple weeks. Hitting clutch shots and blossoming as a young player. Listen to every announcer, they all just talk and talk about how special Barnes is and how much better he will be in the future. After all, he is just a freshman. He still finished with 16 points. The thing I love about him is he doesn't have an attitude and is very coachable.

If he isn't a solid player in the NBA you can rip me all you want
 
I was glad Duke played such great defense on Barnes, keeping his numbers down. Because I think Barnes is gonna be pretty nice. After the 40 point game yesterday he wasn't gonna fall to the Jazz. Now he might. Of course, there's the NCAA tournament to mess that up.

No, Barnes is not super amazingly polished in his freshman year in the ACC but c'mon, you look for the potential, the IQ, etc. and then hope there are a lot of people that look at the boxscore and discard the kid.
 
I think there are a few players that will go ahead of barnes

Irving
Williams
Jones
Kanter
Sullinger
Barnes
Jones

That a is not in any order see there are some good talent there. Not including the 3 euros. Looking at who is drafting in front of us

Cleveland they say that they want Irving which makes since. I think Williams is also another good fit. Theybalso like barnes.

Minny I could see them taking kanter right here. It is a little high but fills a huge need for them. They need a 2 guard if thebthink barnes can play the 2 the might look at him but kanter is a much better fit. Williams maybe but doesn't fit a need although best player situation.

Sactown they need a center and pg. The could also use a wing. I like the fit of williams a here. Gives them a popular player for their new move. The could go kanter but they want the #1 to take Irving.

Wasington really needs depth so best player available is their pick. 2 guard is the biggest need but none available. I say best available is perry jones. He reminds me a lot Rashard Lewis. Sounds like a good mentor. If kanter falls here they take him.

Toronto they need about everything. Their biggest weakness is sf and this where I see barnes going. They will take a long look at the euros but barnes is the best fit.

Utah Sullinger is best available but it is a position we don't need. Terrence jones is best for the position we need. He is a stronger version of ak. His shot is surpring this year. It comes down to who Toronto takes.

Detroit would be dancing in the street getting Sullinger this low.
 
There aren't any saviors in this draft. No one of the board looks like they have superstar potential. There are some nice looking prospects, and some players (Williams, Irving) that look like future all-stars. We probably won't have a shot at those 2 so I just hope we get two solid pieces for the future.

Barnes looks like a fine prospect to me. Savior? Probably not, but could be another solid piece. Kid looks polished for a kid one year removed from HS.
I'd love to add him to Favors, Hayward, and Big Al.

Thriller is bashing Barnes, but who else is a better prospect than him at this point in the 4-7 range?
 
4-7 range. hmm...

In no particular order Barnes, Kanter, Vesely?,


Does everyone think Perry Jones suspension will be knock him out of the top 4? He was projected so high before - and now that he's not playing he can't mess up his "potential" with actual play. I'm hoping some GM will salivate over his size and athleticism so much that he can't pass him up. This would allow one of the other top 7 to fall to the Jazz.
 
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