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But they also had strong reasons to doubt it really had any connection to radical Islam or ISIS and so in this specific instance I think they were correct in what they did.

Otherwise his homosexual/homophobic leanings - which were the stronger motivations for his action - probably would not have come to light because it would have been dismissed as motivated by radical Islam.

And major efforts would have been directed towards uncovering an ISIS cell in the Orlando area.
You think it's a good thing that they covered up the actual evidence and made you believe that there is evidence that this guy was homosexual when, in fact, no such evidence exists? I don't know how to respond to that.
 
[MENTION=430]Dr. Jones[/MENTION] Only my wife talks to me that way!

Wanna get married? how do you feel about wearing a dress and baking chocolate chip cookies?

How about we switch off being the woman. You know, give each other a break.
 
You think it's a good thing that they covered up the actual evidence and made you believe that there is evidence that this guy was homosexual when, in fact, no such evidence exists? I don't know how to respond to that.

Well gee, witnesses who saw him at the bar, folks he tried to pick up and all sorts of other stuff. But you can choose to believe whatever you'd like.
 
And if those chocolate chip cookies taste like the ones from my childhood, I'll take a few dozen.

Somehow, no matter how I tweak the recipe, they just don't taste as good as they once did. I think butter was more buttery back then or something.
 
Well gee, witnesses who saw him at the bar, folks he tried to pick up and all sorts of other stuff. But you can choose to believe whatever you'd like.

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html

I think they should follow up on every lead, including his claim to be doing it for ISIS. My point was that this administration has a longstanding pattern of PCing over the Islamic Terrorist issue. It doesn't work, but they keep attempting to do it. This is the sort of PC issue that I believe so many Americans are sick and tired of.
 
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html

I think they should follow up on every lead, including his claim to be doing it for ISIS. My point was that this administration has a longstanding pattern of PCing over the Islamic Terrorist issue. It doesn't work, but they keep attempting to do it. This is the sort of PC issue that I believe so many Americans are sick and tired of.
I have found myself doing the same thing - wanting other reasons for violence than ISIS-inspired. I realize that every other reason makes me feel less threatened and I am reacting out of fear. I guess the government does the same thing.
 
I have found myself doing the same thing - wanting other reasons for violence than ISIS-inspired. I realize that every other reason makes me feel less threatened and I am reacting out of fear. I guess the government does the same thing.
They do. If you think that's okay then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html

I think they should follow up on every lead, including his claim to be doing it for ISIS. My point was that this administration has a longstanding pattern of PCing over the Islamic Terrorist issue. It doesn't work, but they keep attempting to do it. This is the sort of PC issue that I believe so many Americans are sick and tired of.

I don't really think it's related to political correctness. Perhaps a bit of a security issue though.
 
They do. If you think that's okay then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
No, I don't agree that it is okay. I am working to remove it from my own thinking and try to see situations realistically and factually instead of through my own fear-tinged lenses. It's a process.
 
And if those chocolate chip cookies taste like the ones from my childhood, I'll take a few dozen.

Somehow, no matter how I tweak the recipe, they just don't taste as good as they once did. I think butter was more buttery back then or something.

Use Crisco sticks, keep the batter cold (fridge cold) and use ghiradelli chips instead of nestle. just some tips.
 
And Joebag can take it too. [MENTION=639]Joe Bagadonuts[/MENTION]

See watch..

Hey Joe, you should change your name from Joe to douche.

Douchebagadonuts
I like the moniker, joebagadicks
 
Use Crisco sticks, keep the batter cold (fridge cold) and use ghiradelli chips instead of nestle. just some tips.

Why in the world would anyone use crisco when there's this wonderful better tasting more healthy option called butter?
 
Why in the world would anyone use crisco when there's this wonderful better tasting more healthy option called butter?

Because it makes better cookies. Butter in and by itself clearly tastes better but Crisco makes the better chocolate chip cookies.
 
I have a dream... that one day we might live in a world where the most contentious thing people debate is cookie recipes.
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I don't really think it's related to political correctness. Perhaps a bit of a security issue though.

The administration claims it's a security issue. They claim framing it as a war against Islam helps ISIS recruit. It's also likely they see it as a domestic security issue as well, since they believe the more emphasis on Islam itself will lead to more things like vandalism against mosques, and attacks on Muslim Americans. That said, the forces aligned against us represent a group that views itself as the only true representative of Islam. Personally, I think as long as our own forces know who the enemy is, I'm not sure what's in a name is as all encompassing important as some see it. Even saying we are fighting a war against IS or ISIS would work for me. I know where they are concentrated, in several countries actually besides Iraq and Syria. That does not mean I am convinced we are fighting the war effectively, but, at the same time, ISIS has lost a lot of the territory they had at their greatest extent. I think everybody by now, unless they live under a rock or in a cave, realizes the enemies attacking us are doing so in service to a dystopian ideology centered around their interpretation of Islam. Who doesn't understand that? So I am not sure agonizing over what to call the enemy is worth all the teeth gnashing over it.
 
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