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Siro said:
You can't start your post with "protecting language and culture" then end it with "not racist". Doesn't work that way.
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Umm, is not protecting race an culture exactly what the MLK movement the NAACP is all about?

You want your cake an eat it to.
 
Gameface said:
He's pro-military? haha

If you're one of those types that thinks someone who uses the men and women in the U.S. armed forces to pick fights which cost us the lives of our military members and returns many to us with severe mental issues, then yeah, I guess he's pro-using the military to boost his ego and to pump up "patriots" at home who never wore a uniform, then yeah, I guess he's pro-military.

Obama has been one of the most pro-military presidents in my lifetime. As a former member of the military who served during the attack on the USS Cole and 9-11 and who was then deployed in support of Operation Iraqi freedom twice, I can tell you that I appreciate the fact that Obama has been very careful to not entangle our military in new conflicts when it would have been so easy for him to do so.

Trump seems like the kind of jackass that, if he became president, would want to show the world how big his dick is by throwing our military around with complete disregard for the people who actually serve.
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Trump said win or pull out. I guarantee status quo Hillary will cause more war then Trump. You are crazy if you think other.
 
Boris said:
That is the main stream media portrayal of him. They make money creating an advertising this persona off people like you.

Trump has a storied history of being opposite everything you say. He wants to take care of wounded vets. Every week he meets with wounded soldiers an there families an gives them a free resort accommodation. He cares deeply for the poor an wants to give them jobs. He pays much higher average wages than Walmart.

If that is a bully than I have lost faith in humanity.
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Nah
 
Amazing how so many Trump supporters have deluded themselves about the racial component to his campaign. Trump has doubled-down on the Southern Strategy which panders to racial fears and has helped solidify states from the old Confederacy for Republican presidential candidates since Richard Nixon. Pat Buchanan was a Nixon advisor and strategist and a major proponent of the Southern Strategy. Trump is now campaigning on what were originally Buchanan's ideas, right down to the border wall and the make America great again slogan.

Trump gained his voice and prominence within the Republican Party as a birther and is now running as an ethno-nationalist, the polite term for white nationalism. His nativist agenda is a carbon copy of Pat Buchanan’s agenda from twenty years ago when Buchanan ran for president. Buchanan has been an unapologetic white supremacist for decades. Trump has brought Buchanan’s views out from the shadows and mainstreamed them, the only real difference between the two is that Buchanan came right out and said whites need to take back their country before it’s too late.
 
Jonah said:
Amazing how so many Trump supporters have deluded themselves about the racial component to his campaign. Trump has doubled-down on the Southern Strategy which panders to racial fears and has helped solidify states from the old Confederacy for Republican presidential candidates since Richard Nixon. Pat Buchanan was a Nixon advisor and strategist and a major proponent of the Southern Strategy. Trump is now campaigning on what were originally Buchanan's ideas, right down to the border wall and the make America great again slogan.

Trump gained his voice and prominence within the Republican Party as a birther and is now running as an ethno-nationalist, the polite term for white nationalism. His nativist agenda is a carbon copy of Pat Buchanan’s agenda from twenty years ago when Buchanan ran for president. Buchanan has been an unapologetic white supremacist for decades. Trump has brought Buchanan’s views out from the shadows and mainstreamed them, the only real difference between the two is that Buchanan came right out and said whites need to take back their country before it’s too late.
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If Patty didn't want blacks here, maybe he and his ancestors never should've brought them here to be slaves. Oh, how ironic.
 
Gameface said:
Trump seems like the kind of jackass that, if he became president, would want to show the world how big his dick is by throwing our military around with complete disregard for the people who actually serve.
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Actually I think he seems like the kind of jackass that, if he became president, would want to show the world how big his dick is by showing the world his dick.

Or at least by pulling something out of his fly that he'll try to pretend is his dick.
 
moevillini said:
Actually I think he seems like the kind of jackass that, if he became president, would want to show the world how big his dick is by showing the world his dick.

Or at least by pulling something out of his fly that he'll try to pretend is his dick.
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A black *****.

"My dick is black, believe me. Its black, OK?"

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I am pasting a link to an article at Slate summarizing research done by Gallup about Trump supporters. The basic takeaway is that Trump supporters (generally speaking) ARE NOT lower-skilled blue collar workers who have been affected advsersely by past or existing trade or immigration policies. They tend to be white (no surprise), relatively well-off (or at least not poorly-off relative to other Republican voters), have not lost jobs to foreigners, either living in or outside of the US, and live in white enclaves (e.g., areas with relatively little racial or ethnic diversity).

Assuming the veracity of these findings, what conclusions might one reach? One conclusion obviously suggested by these findings is that support for Trump is driven, at least in part, by racial/ethnic animosities. While I don't think it's as simple as all that, it does tend to confirm my prior (and that of many others) that support for Trump has a significant nativist component (or in more loaded language, by racism/bigotry). These are not, in other words (and again generally speaking), disgruntled, down-on-their-luck blue collar workers displaced by the modern economy who have lost their jobs to outsourcing, international trade, or to illegal immigrants, they are (to a large extent) white folks nursing imagined racial/ethnic grievance who see Trump as one of their own.

https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_sla...ted_by_trade_or_immigration_at_all_study.html
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I am pasting a link to an article at Slate summarizing research done by Gallup about Trump supporters. The basic takeaway is that Trump supporters (generally speaking) ARE NOT lower-skilled blue collar workers who have been affected advsersely by past or existing trade or immigration policies. They tend to be white (no surprise), relatively well-off (or at least not poorly-off relative to other Republican voters), have not lost jobs to foreigners, either living in or outside of the US, and live in white enclaves (e.g., areas with relatively little racial or ethnic diversity).

Assuming the veracity of these findings, what conclusions might one reach? One conclusion obviously suggested by these findings is that support for Trump is driven, at least in part, by racial/ethnic animosities. While I don't think it's as simple as all that, it does tend to confirm my prior (and that of many others) that support for Trump has a significant nativist component (or in more loaded language, by racism/bigotry). These are not, in other words (and again generally speaking), disgruntled, down-on-their-luck blue collar workers displaced by the modern economy who have lost their jobs to outsourcing, international trade, or to illegal immigrants, they are (to a large extent) white folks nursing imagined racial/ethnic grievance who see Trump as one of their own.

https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_sla...ted_by_trade_or_immigration_at_all_study.html
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So basically he is supported by red states. Genius article, really. Typical of liberal media to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Trump is loved much more in blue states by people of color than any republican for last 50 years.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I am pasting a link to an article at Slate summarizing research done by Gallup about Trump supporters. The basic takeaway is that Trump supporters (generally speaking) ARE NOT lower-skilled blue collar workers who have been affected advsersely by past or existing trade or immigration policies. They tend to be white (no surprise), relatively well-off (or at least not poorly-off relative to other Republican voters), have not lost jobs to foreigners, either living in or outside of the US, and live in white enclaves (e.g., areas with relatively little racial or ethnic diversity).

Assuming the veracity of these findings, what conclusions might one reach? One conclusion obviously suggested by these findings is that support for Trump is driven, at least in part, by racial/ethnic animosities. While I don't think it's as simple as all that, it does tend to confirm my prior (and that of many others) that support for Trump has a significant nativist component (or in more loaded language, by racism/bigotry). These are not, in other words (and again generally speaking), disgruntled, down-on-their-luck blue collar workers displaced by the modern economy who have lost their jobs to outsourcing, international trade, or to illegal immigrants, they are (to a large extent) white folks nursing imagined racial/ethnic grievance who see Trump as one of their own.

https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_sla...ted_by_trade_or_immigration_at_all_study.html
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I haven't read this whole thread, but in the parts I have read I've seen little discussion of the candidates' websites -- and, by extension, their actual platforms.

1. Trump's site is ridiculously simple. 2 of the 5 categories on his page essentially state '**** brown people' -- the first listed is the wall; the other one is mass deportations/immigration reform. Trump's pandering to racists isn't a leftwing media fabrication (obviously); it accounts for 40% of his campaign homepage.

2. Two other items on the homepage -- i.e., two other main elements of his platform/policy -- help account for the support from the wealthy. His proposed tax policy includes huge tax cuts/breaks for the richest Americans. The Tax Policy Center estimates that it would lead to a reduction of $9.5 trillion in federal tax revenue over 10 years -- before accounting for general eq'm effects (LINK). Anything resembling this plan would require huge cuts in social spending/programs to keep the federal government solvent (the ridiculously expensive wall -- again, the first thing listed on his homepage -- doesn't help). Fortunately, Trump has given us a glimpse of how he might make up for this loss in tax revenue. One of the last two items on his homepage is education reform. The associated shining-esque page is, as far as I can tell, just the words 'the free market' written several thousand times. That should be worrisome for anyone who has any understanding of what market failure is.

So yeah, Trump's domestic policy can be summed up pretty simply -- **** brown people, let's de-fund education (and other social programs), and give money to my rich friends and family. The wealthy -- who would like to buy more yachts and don't depend on social programs -- can get behind the last two items. Since the mainstream media has failed to report on these last two items -- coincidence considering who owns and controls these entities? -- the 'unwashed masses' (heh) can get behind the tribal/racist nonsense.
 
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The most staunch and vocal supporters of Trump within my circle of rumblings are absolutely, white, rich, somewhat obnoxious (but good people though), and uber confident... I have heard NO ONE else, personally, voice support.
 
GVC said:
I haven't read this whole thread, but in the parts I have read I've seen little discussion of the candidates' websites -- and, by extension, their actual platforms.

1. Trump's site is ridiculously simple. 2 of the 5 categories on his page essentially state '**** brown people' -- the first listed is the wall; the other one is mass deportations/immigration reform. Trump's pandering to racists isn't a leftwing media fabrication (obviously); it accounts for 40% of his campaign homepage.

2. Two other items on the homepage -- i.e., two other main elements of his platform/policy -- help account for the support from the wealthy. His proposed tax policy includes huge tax cuts/breaks for the richest Americans. The Tax Policy Center estimates that it would lead to a reduction of $9.5 trillion in federal tax revenue over 10 years -- before accounting for general eq'm effects (LINK). Anything resembling this plan would require huge cuts in social spending/programs to keep the federal government solvent (the ridiculously expensive wall -- again, the first thing listed on his homepage -- doesn't help). Fortunately, Trump has given us a glimpse of how he might make up for this loss in tax revenue. One of the last two items on his homepage is education reform. The associated shining-esque page is, as far as I can tell, just the words 'the free market' written several thousand times. That should be worrisome for anyone who has any understanding of what market failure is.

So yeah, Trump's domestic policy can be summed up pretty simply -- **** brown people, let's de-fund education (and other social programs), and give money to my rich friends and family. The wealthy -- who would like to buy more yachts and don't depend on social programs -- can get behind the last two items. Since the mainstream media has failed to report on these last two items -- coincidence considering who owns and controls these entities? -- the 'unwashed masses' (heh) can get behind the tribal/racist nonsense.
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Dr. Jones said:
The most staunch and vocal supporters of Trump within my circle of rumblings are absolutely, white, rich, somewhat obnoxious (but good people though), and uber confident... I have heard NO ONE else, personally, voice support.
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OMG you people are incredibly simplistic. That is what US media needs. Trump has black people at every rally speaking in favour of his plans for bringing J O B S.
Trump has been outspoken obvious very genuine an caring for 3 decades on helping black poor.
He wants to build a border fence? Okay racist amiright troll face
NO! He wants to secure America WHILE increasing path to citizenship.

Seriously guis, how can you be against THE ONLY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THAT DOES NOT PUSH DEPORTATION?
I do not get it. This is like Jesus being put on the cross! Trump advocates for all peoples yet you call him racist???
 
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