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Pleiss Traded to Philly!!!

Or getting ready to extend Favors and/or Hill. They might need the extra room.

As for the cash, Jazz just got cash as reported in the pick swap where we got Bolomboy. So really the nets paid for Philly to take Pleiss lol.

They could have just waived Tibor to get the room, they did not need to trade picks. I don't think this was to extend multiple players.
 
They could have just waived Tibor to get the room, they did not need to trade picks. I don't think this was to extend multiple players.

No, they can't. Tibor would have been on the books if they had waived him. Now his salary is not and is available to be used in a renegotiate and extend.
 
Depends on how much cash we sent. We're selling a couple seconds for 2-3 mil and freeing up a roster spot for Bolomboy. Pleiss was useless to us.
 
So, does anybody want to continue to say that the Kanter trade was even an average deal?

We're gonna end up with a couple 2nd rounders, with a slim chance at a first rounder. Awesome.
 
Guys. This trade is simple.

Tibor sucks donkey balls. We didn't want him on the roster, and didn't want to pay him $3 million. In order to get a non-guaranteed contract that runs out soon, we had to give up a couple 2nd rounders so that Philly would take on Tibor's awful contract.

Kendall Marshall is not going to play here. Pretty simple.
 
You guys overvalue 2nd rounders. Look at our roster and tell me where realistically any future second rounders could fit in.
 
So, does anybody want to continue to say that the Kanter trade was even an average deal?

We're gonna end up with a couple 2nd rounders, with a slim chance at a first rounder. Awesome.

Who cares? It was a year and a half ago, move on. Jazz are in an amazing place.

And what we get for the Kanter pick remains to be seen.
 
So I don't really get into the details of contracts and all that, but couldn't they have just bought out Pleiss? Why trade a player, plus picks, plus money for essentially nothing? We had to pay Philly to take Pleiss?

I'm very confused. I'm gonna go get my morning coffee now.

Possible Reasons:
1. Greg Miller doesnt want to pay 3,450,000 it would take to cut Pleiss
2. The Jazz want the extra 3,000,000 in cap-room this year to rework Favors or Hill's contract.
 
So, does anybody want to continue to say that the Kanter trade was even an average deal?

We're gonna end up with a couple 2nd rounders, with a slim chance at a first rounder. Awesome.

No, we will get the first rounder this year. OKC will be a 6th-8th seed.

Or we will get it next year, I forget if we can get it this year.
 
Because they are being cheap. Thats the only reason.


Why do you assume that that cap space has no value?

If we have tossed in the towel on Tibor, why not create cap space? It gives us more choices. The incremental value of the excess 2nd rounders is close to nil when your roster is full and you only have so many players you can focus on developing.

Seems like a solid move, getting out of a commitment to Pleiss, which management clearly regrets at this point.
 
I lean towards the Jazz having another move in mind. Seems like a lot to give up just to free up 3,000,000 in space. Must be something going on.
 
I love all the whining about 2nd round picks. I get that some second round picks turn out good, but you need to have space on your roster for them, and Jazz have extra first rounders coming up each of the next 2 years. They still have plenty of second rounders.
 
I love all the whining about 2nd round picks. I get that some second round picks turn out good, but you need to have space on your roster for them, and Jazz have extra first rounders coming up each of the next 2 years. They still have plenty of second rounders.

Well the Jazz just traded one for 3,000,000 so they have some sort of value.
 
So, does anybody want to continue to say that the Kanter trade was even an average deal?

We're gonna end up with a couple 2nd rounders, with a slim chance at a first rounder. Awesome.

Kanter deal was great. We had no intent to give him a long-term deal, he did not fit our philosphophy and was disgruntled, so we gave up nothing, got more developmental playing time for Gobert, and possibly got a future first round pick next year.

Free agents walk for nothing all the time, which was our next best alternative to this deal.

The mistake was drafting Kanter, (or one could argue not developing him properly) not how we managed damage control.
 
Can someone tell me how to feel?

I suggest you feel luke-warm-neutral. This trade matters very little in the broad scheme of things, overreactions aside. If they do something constructive with the cap space that makes the team better, then I suggest you feel on the happy side of neutral.
 
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