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prodigy said:
I don't want to re-watch it but I'm not so sure the TE gets in even if he caught it, there was a defender pretty close.

Tough loss, I don't know if it gets any tougher than that. We had a really good chance to win and we couldn't finish. ouch.

Going back, if we had converted the 2 pt conversion we could have just kicked the field goal and gone to OT and who knows.Instead we go to my least favorite play - the fade route which rarely works.
That play call just really bugged me, win or lose.
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I don't like going into the "what if's" because what if the U WR's didn't drop at least 4 or 5 passes, what if Andy Phillips wasn't a tubby piece of what used to be a good FG kicker (missed that 45yrd FG if he made that then the U could've kicked the FG at the end to win), what if the OLine didn't whiff on so many blocks in the 4th Qtr, I also hate the one of what if coach Whit doesn't go for it on 4th down (the one they didn't convert in the middle of the 4th qtr) and kicks the FG. I also didn't like how some of the player personnel packages were used, like on the dropped TD pass (yes the pass should've been better) but Harrison Handley is the better pass catcher so you would think he should've been in and then on that earlier 4th down conversion they had Handley in on the run play and he (along with an OL) totally missed on his blocking assignment and left the DL unblocked to make an easy stop, when Moeai is the better run blocker.

Overall the Utes made WAY to many mistakes to win the game (offensively, defensively and coaching) and it cost them, so they didn't deserve to win the game, plane and simple, this was their first true road test of the season and they failed. Also Utes are used to dominating on special teams, they still did with the punter but everything else on special teams has been poor and especially in this game, FG kicking, punt returning, kick off returning all very very sub par especially to how it has been and how the U has become accustomed to.


Trying to look on the bright side, starting C retires in spring ball, then the new starting C gets hurt just minutes into the game, Utes were minus 2 or 3 WR's, Patrick went down early, Butler-Byrd was out for the game (think I heard he stayed back for the birth of his first child) and then Fulks gets hurt in the 2nd half, also starting CB Reggie Porter was not but not sure why, I wont get into the defensive line injuries just because they happened in previous weeks and every team has injuries. My point is I'm trying to be positive that the U can have a chance to win (and really should've) despite missing 3 out of their 4 best WR's (and projected starting RB retires) the U's offensive talent has come a long way, if all these happened in previous seasons I couldn't imagine how bad the offense would look.
 
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Thee jazz fan said:
I remember during the game one of the commentators saying that if the qb is losing control before forward motion but the ball is still in possession during forward motion it's supposed to be a fumble. He was at least losing controle before forward motion.


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Definitely should be a fumble imo. Was it called an incomplete?

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Everybody puts 50 on Cal. Except us. For all the hoopla, our offense isn't making the necessary strides. This is an 8-4 football team. There will be some exciting wins the rest of the way and some losses that look an awful lot like what we just saw. Oh, and Andy Phillips is the most overrated kicker I've ever seen.
 
Despite not putting up a ton of points think the offense did what it was supposed to do, keep the clock running, the ball out of the cal's offense, don't turn the ball over. we had nearly twice as many plays as them! you tell me that beforehand and I think we win comfortably. Unfortunately we didn't finish drives, case in point at the end of the half we get the ball near mid field after the INT where we have all the momentum and we end up missing a field goal and get 0 points out of it. There were just too many things like that that ended up costing us the game.
 
prodigy said:
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Two things stand out to me.
1. On the final play asiata (#54) pulls and goes to the right but the running back act's like the play is designed to go to the left. When asiata pulls it leaves a big easy opening for the defense to blow up the play. Horrible play call or execution there.

2. On the troy Williams pass to the tight end they were very close to each other and Williams threw it too hard (and high) imo. Should have been a softer more accurate easy pass I think.
 
fishonjazz said:
Two things stand out to me.
1. On the final play asiata (#54) pulls and goes to the right but the running back act's like the play is designed to go to the left. When asiata pulls it leaves a big easy opening for the defense to blow up the play. Horrible play call or execution there.

2. On the troy Williams pass to the tight end they were very close to each other and Williams threw it too hard (and high) imo. Should have been a softer more accurate easy pass I think.
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Yep. On the final play the running back never had a prayer. I'll bet you're right that either he or Asiata blew something. On the pass play before it I think the best chance for scoring would have been a Williams keeper. He would have been almost impossible to stop if he'd run from that position where he stopped and threw the ball (and the play design/execution wasn't great there either because even if he'd caught the ball he still would have needed to figure out how to get into the end zone). He should have already been in the end zone which would have ensured that a catch equals victory and also created extra space to make the catch easier and the quarterback keeper option even more wide open. I think the lost time out played a huge role in Williams decision making on that last play. He knew that if he ran and failed the game was over, whereas if he passed and failed there was another chance.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Yep. On the final play the running back never had a prayer. I'll bet you're right that either he or Asiata blew something. On the pass play before it I think the best chance for scoring would have been a Williams keeper. He would have been almost impossible to stop if he'd run from that position where he stopped and threw the ball (and the play design/execution wasn't great there either because even if he'd caught the ball he still would have needed to figure out how to get into the end zone). He should have already been in the end zone which would have ensured that a catch equals victory and also created extra space to make the catch easier and the quarterback keeper option even more wide open. I think the lost time out played a huge role in Williams decision making on that last play. He knew that if he ran and failed the game was over, whereas if he passed and failed there was another chance.
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Really good analysis of that williams pass play. I never looked at it like that but if he just keeps it then he has that tight end as a blocker too and im pretty certain he gets in. You might be right that he was worried about the clock though in the chance that he gets stopped.
 
jazzman12 said:
Not going but I expect a 2 TD victory.
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I'm hearing that they are pretty banged up.

I mean at this point in the season everyone is but I heard on the radio that az has been hit by injuries worst than most.

I like your 2 td's prediction.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm hearing that they are pretty banged up.

I mean at this point in the season everyone is but I heard on the radio that az has been hit by injuries worst than most.

I like your 2 td's prediction.
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If they are banged up more than the Utes they must be accepting walk ons mid season.
 
UGLI baby said:
If they are banged up more than the Utes they must be accepting walk ons mid season.
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Ya utes have been hit hard too. I just heard on the radio the other day and the dj's were talking about how az is worse off than most teams.

Would be a nice time for a bye for a lot of teams right now.
 
Hearing patrick and lotuleilei are going to play so that's good.
Heard mccormick is out.

Heard from gunther that utes are starting center for this game is their third string guard or something?
 
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