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"Obama has now fired more cruise missiles than all other Nobel Peace Prize winners combined."

Libya isn't another Iraq. It's more like Clinton's intervention in Bosnia but without ground troops. Right or wrong, it's more relevant being debated on those terms.
 
jimmyjazz said:
Libya isn't another Iraq. It's more like Clinton's intervention in Bosnia but without ground troops. Right or wrong, it's more relevant being debated on those terms.
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You've made things way too simple...

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jimmyjazz said:
Libya isn't another Iraq. It's more like Clinton's intervention in Bosnia but without ground troops. Right or wrong, it's more relevant being debated on those terms.
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The non war "kinetic military action" is more like when BJ Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman so he ordered military strikes on Iraq. Anyone check the carpets in the oval office lately?
 
jimmyjazz said:
Libya isn't another Iraq. It's more like Clinton's intervention in Bosnia but without ground troops. Right or wrong, it's more relevant being debated on those terms.
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But that doesn't fit the narrative one side wants. So it's another Iraq.

The facts don't matter jimmyjazz. It only matters that Obama's a hypocrite.
 
Millsapa said:
Bush claimed both.

Who was criticizing Libya? I'm criticizing the incompetent hypocritical flipflopping commander in chief.

I think the main reason we are attacking in Libya is for Billary's 2012 campaign.
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Ok so I look forward to all of your posts, because they are so completely irrational(idiotic/hilarious), but unfortunately I realized something... You can't possibly be serious. It's like learning Santa isn't real. Christmas (if that's your thing) is still great, but it just isn't the same.
 
Pretty sweet video.

I'm pretty sure Tunisia wasn't part of any big think-tank's long-range plans, or Libya. However, in 1969 the US Army put out a theoretical war plan for a war with Iraq, theorizing that Iraq would be using nerve gas and other WMDs. A few years after Saddam Hussein came to power in Iraq, an Israeli minister was speaking about their nuclear ambitions and making a case for the need to stop them. So I'm pretty sure Iraq has long been central to a planned future strategy for imposing American(??????) policy on the Persian Gulf.

I think Libya was an unplanned and unsupervised uprising, and that the European interests are just scrambling for a position of influence on who ends up on the other side of the oil contract negeotiating teams.

But we are just broke and should just come home and re-implement the first American foreign policy: Alliance with none, commerce with all. Pointedly cutting international cartels out of the loop.
 
"But we are just broke and should just come home and re-implement the first American foreign policy: Alliance with none, commerce with all. Pointedly cutting international cartels out of the loop."
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Commerce with all is our foreign policy. It's the #1 reason why our military is spread out all over the world.

The problem isn't that we have have abandoned Washington's philosophy of isolationism. The problem is that war has never been so damn profitable!
 
Building cannons and swords has never been as profitable as night vision goggles, tanks, body armor, aircraft carriers, missiles, computer systems, etc. Not to mention all the wonderful American contractors that want to get into the act with all their foreign infrastructure building.

Also, it's our desire for commerce with these countries that lead to us having a military presence. Just look @ E. Asia or Saudi Arabia.

Commerce with all is the #1 motivation behind all wars of the 19th, 20th, and 21st century. One merely needs to type IMPERIALISM into google to find out how out of control commerce has become.
 
babe said:
Pretty sweet video.

But we are just broke and should just come home and re-implement the first American foreign policy: Alliance with none, commerce with all. Pointedly cutting international cartels out of the loop.
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Thanks and that does sounds like a pretty sweet plan.
 
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