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My dad voted for Trump

I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.
 
JJAS said:
I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.
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That is so perfectly and eloquently stated, thank you JJAS. I wish I could have articulated my same exact feelings so succinctly.
 
I am voting for Trump cause you tell me I can not. The left are bullies. They tell you you can not do anything they disagree with an that you are a bad person if you disagree.

You gun toting Americans
You science haters cause you do not buy the bull crap doomsday global warming predictions
How can you not buy global cooling in the 1970's
Nuclear armed countries like N Korea are not a threat. Why we police the world?
Search old women at airports an do not discriminate at all. You are racist if you disagree
Why you eat so much meat you world killer!
Buy local until Mr. Trump pushes your cause then you are deplorable for supporting it
You republicans are all corporate blood suckers if you do not raise taxes on the rich. They were 90% in Carter years.
You are homophobes if you do not think term marriage is religious based.
On and on and on

The left are bullies.
 
Here is an idea. Dont talk politics with friends, family and co-workers. It isnt worth it. Its never a good idea.

You essentially let the person you despise the most (Trump) drive a wedge between you and your dad. That was stupid.

Nobody truly supports anyone. Everyone would do things differently if they had their chance. Im sure your dad doesnt agree with all of Trumps views. Im sure he especially doesnt agree with the views in how you see Trump. So even if you are right about Trump, then Im sure he just made a mistake. It doesnt make him a piece of ****. Learn to forgive.
 
Computer said:
Here is an idea. Dont talk politics with friends, family and co-workers. It isnt worth it. Its never a good idea.

You essentially let the person you despise the most (Trump) drive a wedge between you and your dad. That was stupid.

Nobody truly supports anyone. Everyone would do things differently if they had their chance. Im sure your dad doesnt agree with all of Trumps views. Im sure he especially doesnt agree with the views in how you see Trump. So even if you are right about Trump, then Im sure he just made a mistake. It doesnt make him a piece of ****. Learn to forgive.
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Well said. Thanks man.
 
I can certainly understand having no respect for anyone voting for a proud sex offender. Almost have to be a scumbag to do so. However, I do know a lot of scumbags that are otherwise good people when they aren't voting for criminal molesters.

Can't wait for this election to be over so we can get on with more important things, like talking b-ball, where scumbags and non-scumbags can all come together as one.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I can certainly understand having no respect for anyone voting for a proud sex offender. Almost have to be a scumbag to do so. However, I do know a lot of scumbags that are otherwise good people when they aren't voting for criminal molesters.

Can't wait for this election to be over so we can get on with more important things, like talking b-ball, where scumbags and non-scumbags can all come together as one.
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Your posts used to be less scumbaggish.
That's not a political/Trump thing... but rather a,
"You're a complete douchebag thing."

No offense.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Your posts used to be less scumbaggish.
That's not a political/Trump thing... but rather a,
"You're a complete douchebag thing."

No offense.
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If being disgusted by people supporting a proud sex offender makes me a douchebag, then I'm the douchiest of all the bags, ever. Guilty as charged.

If it makes any difference, you're one of my favorite scumbags around, however misguided.

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#JaredFogleFor2020GOPNominee
 
JJAS said:
I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.
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Probably because rational people who vote for Trump are rational enough not to tell people who they vote for because a lot of people take opinions on this election way too seriously/personally

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Probably because rational people who vote for Trump are rational enough not to tell people who they vote for because a lot of people take opinions on this election way too seriously/personally

Sent from my A0001 using JazzFanz mobile app
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What should we take seriously? When should we take anything seriously? I'm glad you've figured out how to live a life of perfection.

Noam Chomsky has marveled at the average American's ability to call into a sports talk radio with savant-like knowledge of the minutiae of a given sport. It's absolutely amazing how deep the knowledge of this sport is. When it comes to even simple aspects of foreign policy or politics on the other hand, Chomsky notes how frighteningly shallow our knowledge is when compared to our knowledge of sports. It seems as if what we feel is important is actually not when compared to things that really are.
 
JJAS said:
What should we take seriously? When should we take anything seriously? I'm glad you've figured out how to live a life of perfection.

Noam Chomsky has marveled at the average American's ability to call into a sports talk radio with savant-like knowledge of the minutiae of a given sport. It's absolutely amazing how deep the knowledge of this sport is. When it comes to even simple aspects of foreign policy or politics on the other hand, Chomsky notes how frighteningly shallow our knowledge is when compared to our knowledge of sports. It seems as if what we feel is important is actually not when compared to things that really are.
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Your dad didn't sway this election, The people have spoken, and I'm fairly certain we're going to see blowout #'s on voter turnout.. Forgiving him is the only sensible option.

Don't hold a grudge against ur pops man, it's not worth it, you'll regret it eventually.
 
BYE said:
I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.
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This is such a on point post I had to bring it to attention in light of where we are at right now.
 
str8line said:
My dad was born and raised in Germany during WW2. He never knew his father because his dad was a casualty in the battle of Stalingrad. My dad and his family suffered through post-WW2 Germany with food shortages, etc., where the horrors of Hitler came into full focus.

I am so disgusted. Sucks to have almost no respect for your own father. I wish I could say that this was just a political difference.



EDIT: This is from JJAS on post 21 of this thread and he put it so much better than I could have. My feelings match his:

Thank you JJAS




I can relate with str8line on this. It's not just a difference of opinion in this election. It's a bit like a line in the sand. Many of you who hate both candidates and feel that there is no difference between them probably do have a hard time understanding his feelings. I personally know no rational person that is voting for Trump (I don't count people on Jazzfanz). My family has recognized Trump's despicable nature from the very beginning, thank God.

Justified or not, I feel a deep animus for people who are voting for Trump because everything about Trump is the exact opposite of who I am and what I have come to value in life. When people choose Trump, they choose nearly everything that I despise in this world. By association, they become a person that negates everything that I hold dear.

At the same time, I can see that they are good people, and that I can still enjoy their company. However, deep inside, I remember when the time came to choose, they chose this piece of trash and therefore potentially put my children and world in jeopardy, while embracing all of the evils Trump has openly espoused and propagated.

I've never ever felt anything even close to this. In years past, I haven't even cared who people have voted for. I've given it almost zero thought. Trump has been an absolute game-changer for me, and its affected me like very few things. I've been sick for a week. My feelings of this threat have been as visceral as anything I've ever experienced. In short, I can understand the betrayal and animus that Str8line is feeling, even with his own dad.

The degree to which a person normally cares about seemingly insignificant things is normally a direct correlation to how much they care about large things. Everything is compounded. If you're normally someone who let's everything slide, then it will be the same thing in this case.
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My grandparents on both sides of my family were committed socialists, on my fathers side of the family his fathers blacklisting meant he grew up in very real poverty. When they immigrated to Australia they faced new challenges of racism and discrimination i used to have arguments with my fathers older brothers who voted for a racist conservative leaders over immigration saying to them that you are supporting the same people that spat on us when we came here but they just couldn't see past their own racism.

That said as a relatively wealthy business owner I'm all for keeping the peasantry in their place..
 
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