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fishonjazz said:
Is it possible that some of those feelings are justified though? Especially the international communities feelings. I mean if you are from a different country it would appear (right or wrong) that america chose a racist, sexist, egotistical, unqualified, narcissistic bully as their leader.
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Ugli doesn't think he is those things tho.

Every President is egotistical tho, have to be to want that **** job.

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fishonjazz said:
Huh, I saw hillary got 28% of the vote and mcmullin got 20%. regardless, i was talking about the country, not the state of utah.

Regardless, this was not the time to vote your conscience. The stakes were too high. Trump supporters were playing to win. Trump haters were going with their conscience. We all lost in the end.

Vote 3rd party and try to shake things up and get change happening during a different election. Stakes were too high in this one.
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Nah, I hate dems who are crying about 3rd party voters. Its good people voted 3rd party. It should send a message that:

2 party system blows
Media coverage blows
Rigging the DNC to **** Sanders blows

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fishonjazz said:
Huh, I saw hillary got 28% of the vote and mcmullin got 20%. regardless, i was talking about the country, not the state of utah.

Regardless, this was not the time to vote your conscience. The stakes were too high. Trump supporters were playing to win. Trump haters were going with their conscience. We all lost in the end.

Vote 3rd party and try to shake things up and get change happening during a different election. Stakes were too high in this one.
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I voted to stop Trump, which in effect would be a vote for Hillary. Before the election McMullin was picked by the pollsters to have the best chance of beating Trump in Utah. Mormons obviously said one thing and did another. I'm not surprised.
 
And as far as "unqualified", we just put Obama in who barely had any experience and ran on that as being a positive since he wasn't " part of the system". Trump just did the same thing but more extreme.

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Super awkward speech just now by Paul Ryan. He looks like death warmed over.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Had zero effect on the outcome.
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My point exactly. Voting for johsnon/stein/mcmullin at best had no impact on the election since none of those people won a single electoral vote. At worst, voting 3rd party helped trump win.

Also it did nothing to shake things up and didn't put any fear into the two parties.
 
str8line said:
I voted to stop Trump, which in effect would be a vote for Hillary. Before the election McMullin was picked by the pollsters to have the best chance of beating Trump in Utah. Mormons obviously said one thing and did another. I'm not surprised.
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You do realize that very small sampling sizes are used in voter polls, right? It's very apparent to me that few people polled admitted they would vote for Trump. Likely to avoid constant attack from people who disagreed with them. To paint all Mormons the way you have is as small minded as you accuse them of being.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Nah, I hate dems who are crying about 3rd party voters. Its good people voted 3rd party. It should send a message that:

2 party system blows
Media coverage blows
Rigging the DNC to **** Sanders blows

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We have all known all that the two party system blows and that media coverage blows for years and years. Voting 3rd party this election did nothing at all. It didn't shake things up. Every electoral vote in every state went to either a dem or a repub like usual.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And as far as "unqualified", we just put Obama in who barely had any experience and ran on that as being a positive since he wasn't " part of the system". Trump just did the same thing but more extreme.

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Trump was the first in forever to have never held a position in office.
 
RJF said:
You do realize that very small sampling sizes are used in voter polls, right? It's very apparent to me that few people polled admitted they would vote for Trump. Likely to avoid constant attack from people who disagreed with them. To paint all Mormons the way you have is as small minded as you accuse them of being.
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Trump won Utah, right? That means that a majority of Mormons voted for Trump. What is small minded about my pointing that out? And you just said that they hid their true feelings for fear of reprisal. Couldn't they stand on their convictions? Bottom line is Mormons voted for the most immoral man ever to run for President.
 
str8line said:
Trump won Utah, right? That means that a majority of Mormons voted for Trump. What is small minded about my pointing that out? And you just said that they hid their true feelings for fear of reprisal. Couldn't they stand on their convictions? Bottom line is Mormons voted for the most immoral man ever to run for President.
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Utah also watches the most porn.

Point: voting is private and Mormons care more about the appearance of morality than actual morality.

*nothing against watching porn*

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah also watches the most porn.

Point: voting is private and Mormons care more about the appearance of morality than actual morality.

*nothing against watching porn*

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And not to offend Mormons only, that is every religion. We all know deep down God isn't watching cuz he aint real, only the neighbors are.

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Fantastic speech by Hillary. Very classy. She doesn't seem down at all and promoted healing.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Nah, I hate dems who are crying about 3rd party voters. Its good people voted 3rd party. It should send a message that:

2 party system blows
Media coverage blows
Rigging the DNC to **** Sanders blows

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Dems playing the blame game will result in another loss in 2020 if they don't understand the real reason why people didn't vote for hilldog.

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