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24 ppg for Hayward whats up [MENTION=300]silesian[/MENTION]

Huge sample size, eh?

And the debate was not points, but shots per game. He's up 2 spg from last year.

I said usage would fall and efficiency would rise. You argued shots per game would go up, I disagreed.

We agreed to revisit midseason, remember now?
 
Huge sample size, eh?

And the debate was not points, but shots per game. He's up 2 spg from last year.

I said usage would fall and efficiency would rise. You argued shots per game would go up, I disagreed.

We agreed to revisit midseason, remember now?

I can bring it up whenever I want.
 
Yeah I missed it too.. my bold prediction would be Burks being traded at the deadline though.

(Sorry Fish)
Not going to happen. And it's not because of the injury. Jazz need to have Hayward make his decision before they move any wings. If Hayward returns, then Burks might be moved as Utah couldn't afford to re-sign him. If Hayward leaves, Burks might start at the 2 with Hood moving to the 3.
 
Jazz end up 3rd seed in West and take it to the limit all the way to the NBA finals, upsetting the Warriors. Hayward is named MVP of the WCF. Jazz vs. Cleveland in NBA finals. Hayward plays LeBron tough and the Jazz win the finals. Gordon is on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
 
Jazz end up 3rd seed in West and take it to the limit all the way to the NBA finals, upsetting the Warriors. Hayward is named MVP of the WCF. Jazz vs. Cleveland in NBA finals. Hayward plays LeBron tough and the Jazz win the finals. Gordon is on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

You forgot the unicorns and flying pigs.
 
[MENTION=300]silesian[/MENTION] Hayward averaging 26 ppg now

Yes, I'm thrilled with Hayward's three games.

But yet, you are confused about our disagreement, in that it was around usage, which you framed in that his shots per game would go up from last year to this year. I disagreed, saying Hayward would be facilitating more than last year with better offensive weapons.

If you want to gloat over three data points, it makes you look a little naïve regarding sample size and representative opponents (Knicks/Sixers), and other circumstances such as Hill being out for 2 games.

I'll freely admit I was wrong after Gordon plays 42 games and his average shots per game are above 15.

Talk to you then!
 
Nope

Hill and Johnson's usage will be higher than Ingles/ Neto/ Johnson/ Mack's
Lyle's usage will be higher than Booker's

Usage is zero sum, Hayward's will fall from 25.7 to 23.5-24.5. His minutes will drop from 36.2 to 34-35. His efficiency will go up. His assists will go up. He'll score 18-20.
Say what? Your argument included ppg clown.

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Hayward going to score more against better teams. He just dropped 29 on a team that rotated MKG and Batum on him. He also going to score more when Hill actually plays. Doubt all you want.



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Say what? Your argument included ppg clown.


Reading is fundamental, dude. I was pointing out the fact that our discussion and our bet was around shots per game. And we agreed to revisit around midseason. So please go away until then, daily discussions are silly, especially after 4 games.
 
Reading is fundamental, dude. I was pointing out the fact that our discussion and our bet was around shots per game. And we agreed to revisit around midseason. So please go away until then, daily discussions are silly, especially after 4 games.
No it wasn't. You read through it all you want.

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Nope

Hill and Johnson's usage will be higher than Ingles/ Neto/ Johnson/ Mack's
Lyle's usage will be higher than Booker's

Usage is zero sum, Hayward's will fall from 25.7 to 23.5-24.5. His minutes will drop from 36.2 to 34-35. His efficiency will go up. His assists will go up. He'll score 18-20.

Once again, you talked about PPG. Stop acting like you didnt.
 
Hayward is still relatively cold on his shooting and he is averaging 24 ppg. Silesian going to be so wrong lol. The people who predicted 25 ppg might be right.
 
Check back midseason and you'll see who is being absurd. Prepare to eat crow when Hayward's shots/game falls.

There is nothing to debate here, the facts are right in the thread. I said his spg could decrease, you said this was absurd.


My prediction is Hayward at 18-20 ppg. It is disingenuous to pretend that this was the crux of our disagreement.
 
Cy is racking up some serious Ls around here lately. Getting so desperate that he's trying to turn 4 games into proof about stuff.
 
But I do think that Hayward will get north of 20ppg this year. Probably around 22-23 ppg when all is said and done.

(not that that was the crux of the disagreement, though).
 
But I do think that Hayward will get north of 20ppg this year. Probably around 22-23 ppg when all is said and done.

(not that that was the crux of the disagreement, though).

And I'd be thrilled with this! Don't really care about being right or wrong on silly predictions. Just want the Jazz to win and Gordon to do great. By the way, does anyone know the record is for most consecutive seasons increasing ppg?
 
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