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Confession of a Muslim Trump Supporter/Voter

What part is trolling? I'm just pointing out that the left is pretty hypocritical. And then I posted an article talking about why someone might vote for Trump. Not sure why you feel you're being trolled unless you have the same unreal belief as most on the left that their **** doesn't stink.
 
I think we could sure use a speech like this right about now.
(Let's not argue politics.. just talking message.)

[video=youtube_share;jIKW8RKfpls]https://youtu.be/jIKW8RKfpls
 
LogGrad98 said:
What part is trolling? I'm just pointing out that the left is pretty hypocritical. And then I posted an article talking about why someone might vote for Trump. Not sure why you feel you're being trolled unless you have the same unreal belief as most on the left that their **** doesn't stink.
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You're smart enough to know that you aren't referring to the Left, en masse. You're referring to the actions of some people who can be grouped within radicalized variants of the Left. Your glib speech reads as trolling.
 
There were a lot of straight-out lies in that speech, btw. Cute, though. Gave me bad goosebumps. That's different from butthurt, btw.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Did you notice the protests? Did you do any searches to find evidence there is no bullying from the left?

Solid state of denial.
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I googled what you wanted and you are right there are 0 example ever of anyone who is "left" that has pushed their agenda without death threats and bullying, there were rumors of someone doing it in the 60's through various other methods but I couldn't get a solid source on it so it might just be a rumor. I tried looking for examples of anyone from the "right" half of america that was bullying people and it doesnt exist. Never once has anyone tried to stop gay people from being married, stop women from getting abortions or trying to get people to follow their religious principles by making law used any type of bullying techniques. You got me on this one :rolleyes:

Bullying happens from both sides. I am not sure you understand what anecdotal evidence is. You said that "the left" uses death threats to further their agenda. Maybe a select minority has done that but in no way does that represent how 1/2 of this country pushes their "agenda." Do you have anymore blanket statements to make about half the country and examples of the few times it has happened to try and prove the entire group is doing that?

Protesting is not death threats, nor is it bullying. The current protests are also a minority of people. I am not at the protest nor apart of it nor do I support it, I do not send death threats therefore the entire left is not doing those things and pushing their agenda that way. I am assuming I fit your broad label of left despite the fact that no really is all left or right unless they have bought into propaganda and stopped thinking for themselves.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Interesting article.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-s-victory-and-the-politics-of-resentment/
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I did find that article interesting, he had a few interesting takes on some of these issues. I found it interesting that he said people he talked to in rural america didnt vote for Clinton because she was ambitious and assertive and that doesnt fit what they think a women should be. Basically saying they are sexist.

Did you hear a lot of “There’s no way I’d vote for Hillary?” What did she represent to these voters?
I started to hear their thoughts about her candidacy back in 2008. There was a perception of her as your prototypical not-genuine D.C. politician, doing whatever she needed to get ahead. Some didn’t feel very positively about Bill Clinton and that was rubbing off on her. But I think, too, unfortunately, part of it was this sense of what kind of a woman is this? Who is this hyper-public person—very ambitious, very assertive? For many people it doesn’t fit their sense of the way women ought to behave. She didn’t come across as warm. We know that for women running for office there’s this very fine line that they must tread of having enough malelike characteristics that people can imagine them in an executive position but at the same time, if they are not warm enough, they get labeled as something really distasteful. For most people, Hillary Clinton was not traditionally female enough.
Isn’t that just sexism?
I’m not using that word, but I guess it is sexism.
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Dr. Jones said:
[MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION]

Thanks bro.
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I'm going to say something I've never said out loud before. I'm uncomfortable with people thanking me for my service. Yes, I served and did so with tremendous pride and an unwavering devotion to my duty to my country and with a full willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice if my mission required it.

But serving my nation was always something I wanted to do. It was something I couldn't accept not doing.

I attempted to join the Navy when I was 19. I was rejected because of my juvenile criminal record. The military holds records of potential recruits for 2 years. My initial intent was to wait 2 years and attempt to join the Navy again. At that age life happens and I didn't end up joining the Navy until I was 23. I had my juvenile record expunged and did not tell the Navy about any of it. I even had a security clearance. During the process of joining the Navy they told me that I had to tell them about my record. However, the judge who granted me my expungement told me that I was no legally required to tell anyone I had a juvenile record, including the federal government. I took his word for it and it turned out he was telling me the truth.

Anyway. I enjoyed my service. It was the best time of my life. I met the most amazing people, both those who I served with and those who lived in places like Dubai, Singapore, Perth AU, Guam, Hong Kong, Victoria BC, Hawaii. And those who I was in training with who were from Bahrain being trained along side U.S.sailors in the weapon systems their nation bought from the U.S..

I got more out of my service than I gave. That's ultimately what I'm saying here. I don't need to be thanked. I owe my thanks to the U.S. Navy for giving me an opportunity to serve my nation and providing me with training and experience that has led to this HS drop out having a much better quality of life than I ever dared dream of having growing up.

So if you want to thank someone, find someone who has served in combat, who has killed and watched their friends be killed. those are the veterans who I thank because they are the ones who have given us more than we can ever give them in return.
 
Gameface said:
I'm going to say something I've never said out loud before. I'm uncomfortable with people thanking me for my service. Yes, I served and did so with tremendous pride and an unwavering devotion to my duty to my country and with a full willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice if my mission required it.

But serving my nation was always something I wanted to do. It was something I couldn't accept not doing.

I attempted to join the Navy when I was 19. I was rejected because of my juvenile criminal record. The military holds records of potential recruits for 2 years. My initial intent was to wait 2 years and attempt to join the Navy again. At that age life happens and I didn't end up joining the Navy until I was 23. I had my juvenile record expunged and did not tell the Navy about any of it. I even had a security clearance. During the process of joining the Navy they told me that I had to tell them about my record. However, the judge who granted me my expungement told me that I was no legally required to tell anyone I had a juvenile record, including the federal government. I took his word for it and it turned out he was telling me the truth.

Anyway. I enjoyed my service. It was the best time of my life. I met the most amazing people, both those who I served with and those who lived in places like Dubai, Singapore, Perth AU, Guam, Hong Kong, Victoria BC, Hawaii. And those who I was in training with who were from Bahrain being trained along side U.S.sailors in the weapon systems their nation bought from the U.S..

I got more out of my service than I gave. That's ultimately what I'm saying here. I don't need to be thanked. I owe my thanks to the U.S. Navy for giving me an opportunity to serve my nation and providing me with training and experience that has led to this HS drop out having a much better quality of life than I ever dared dream of having growing up.

So if you want to thank someone, find someone who has served in combat, who has killed and watched their friends be killed. those are the veterans who I thank because they are the ones who have given us more than we can ever give them in return.
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You know.. I can understand and respect this (and can empathize - in a weird way).

But, I don't want to serve in the military and I embarrass myself, internally, for that.
So I tend to "thank" people I see as better Americans.. protectors.

You didn't know what enlisting would lead to.. but signed on anyway.

Hats off to ya for that.
 
Dr. Jones said:
You know.. I can understand and respect this (and can empathize - in a weird way).

But, I don't want to serve in the military and I embarrass myself, internally, for that.
So I tend to "thank" people I see as better Americans.. protectors.

You didn't know what enlisting would lead to.. but signed on anyway.

Hats off to ya for that.
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This. In spades.
 
Dr. Jones said:
You know.. I can understand and respect this (and can empathize - in a weird way).

But, I don't want to serve in the military and I embarrass myself, internally, for that.
So I tend to "thank" people I see as better Americans.. protectors.

You didn't know what enlisting would lead to.. but signed on anyway.

Hats off to ya for that.
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I thought I would share this experience I had in Germany.

We were on vacation in Berlin and we ran into a couple of US servicemen in uniform. They were struggling obviously with the language and just happened to be in one of the very few cafes in Berlin where no one spoke particularly good English (it happens now and then). I stepped in and helped out, then told the waiter I would be paying for their meal. When they tried to pay the waiter told them and they came over to thank me. I told them that I needed to thank them, and this was a small way to show my appreciation. One of them kinda blushed and said something along the lines of "well I haven't really been anywhere but here and in America, so...", and I interrupted him and told him he had no way of knowing where he would go when he enlisted, and that didn't make him any less brave than someone who had been sent straight into the war zone, more or less what Dr. J said here. I said that takes more balls than most people will ever show in their lives by half. They both actually got a little choked up, thanked us and left. Was one of the highlights of our vacation there. I was glad for my kids to witness that too. So I echo what Mr. T said here. Thanks.
 
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