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What did Hillary say?

A recount is not the same as not accepting the results.

God some of you guys don't know what words mean. It's annoying.
 
Gameface said:
A recount is not the same as not accepting the results.
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Serious question: what did people think Trump had in mind when he said wait and see? If he wanted a recount should he have lost, what would our feelings on that be?
 
Screw it let us do this for fun. I want a revote. If we devote everyone will show up an Trump will win in a landslide. Utah an all the middle country states will add 46 million votes for Trump. New York an Cali will split there new votes.

If I am wrong an Hillary wins popular vote I promise to not to cry unfair.
 
infection said:
Serious question: what did people think Trump had in mind when he said wait and see? If he wanted a recount should he have lost, what would our feelings on that be?
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I don't know.
 
infection said:
Serious question: what did people think Trump had in mind when he said wait and see? If he wanted a recount should he have lost, what would our feelings on that be?
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I dont know what he meant but I know he was answering the question of if he would accept the election results. What is happening now from the Clinton group has nothing to do with accepting the results or not. They have said they dont expect it to change the results and reminded them that Clinton has conceded and has not changed her stance on conceding. They are also not contributing financially to the recount but simply paying to have their lawyers present at the recount. This is what they are doing:
going along with the recount effort to assure supporters that it was doing everything possible to verify that hacking by Russia or other irregularities had not affected the results
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Not sure why anyone would be upset at private donors making sure that the process was followed correctly and nothing shady or illegal happened. People are obviously paranoid after the amount of proven things Russia has done to tamper with this election.

Here is a decent article about why it should be done. None of which is to change the result of this election. Which is not what anyone has claimed to be the goal.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...en-though-its-unlikely-to-change-the-outcome/
 
Ron Mexico said:
I dont know what he meant but I know he was answering the question of if he would accept the election results. What is happening now from the Clinton group has nothing to do with accepting the results or not. They have said they dont expect it to change the results and reminded them that Clinton has conceded and has not changed her stance on conceding. They are also not contributing financially to the recount but simply paying to have their lawyers present at the recount. This is what they are doing: Not sure why anyone would be upset at private donors making sure that the process was followed correctly and nothing shady or illegal happened. People are obviously paranoid after the amount of proven things Russia has done to tamper with this election.

Here is a decent article about why it should be done. None of which is to change the result of this election. Which is not what anyone has claimed to be the goal.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...en-though-its-unlikely-to-change-the-outcome/
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So if there was a mistake or fraud somehow, Clinton wouldnt accept the presidency?

It is exactly what it looks like. Sour Grapes and desperation.
 
Computer said:
So if there was a mistake or fraud somehow, Clinton wouldnt accept the presidency?

It is exactly what it looks like. Sour Grapes and desperation.
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If for some reason there was a large fraud then a wide scale process to figure out what happened would occur. Then how it happened and how to solve it. At that point I have no idea what the result of that would be, nor is that hypothetical a concern of mine or the people looking into it. It is most likely nothing happens but it is equally likely that this benefits Trump as much as it could Clinton. If this widescale thing happened I am guessing it would be left to congress to decide who wins the election, which would still not go to Clinton. There is next to 0 chance of this causing her to win and Clintons group is aware of this and it has no bearing on what they are doing.

It is sour grapes to send your lawyers to watch the recount to help calm the minds of many people? When it is proven that Russia has tampered with this election in at least three proven ways: Fake news stories spread, Hacking DNC emails and spreading them and having hackers attempt to mess with voter registration in at least 2 states. Once again Clinton is not involved in the recount and did not start or request it simply sending a lawyer to watch it happen. This is also less of a recount (since that is not happening) and more of an investigation into assuring fair voting.

Based on your comments it sounds like you have not read anything about what is happening and why. Hard to have a discussion about it it tbh. As usual I assume you are trolling with your comments but if anyone else cares about this issue it is nice to get real information out about it.

Personally I think this type of post election investigation should be involved post every election.
 
Computer said:
Spin

Why even recount then?
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Why dont you take 10 seconds and read why before asking?

Here is what the Green party is saying why they are doing it.
“In my view, this is not likely at all to change the outcome, and that’s what the computer and voting security experts say as well,” Stein explained. “They are not expecting the outcome to change here. But it’s the voters who benefit by standing up and saying we deserve a voting system that is secure in which we know our votes are being counted and our votes are being respected.”
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Not sure why you(or anyone) are opposed to private funded people making sure the voting process worked in their state. This should happen in every state every election in my opinion.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Why dont you take 10 seconds and read why before asking?

Here is what the Green party is saying why they are doing it.


Not sure why you(or anyone) are opposed to private funded people making sure the voting process worked in their state. This should happen in every state every election in my opinion.
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Can you suck off the liberal spin any harder? Seriously. You are trying to play there spin as fair play trying to ensure a fair voting system instead pouting? Nobody buying that bull ****. "Guys it is all about making sure election is fair we promise". So lame an pouty.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Why dont you take 10 seconds and read why before asking?

Here is what the Green party is saying why they are doing it.


Not sure why you(or anyone) are opposed to private funded people making sure the voting process worked in their state. This should happen in every state every election in my opinion.
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Had Hillary won. Would we be talking about the same people looking for a recount, and wanting to look into this? The answer is no.

Cmon man. You arent that gullible are you?
 
Ron Mexico said:
If for some reason there was a large fraud then a wide scale process to figure out what happened would occur. Then how it happened and how to solve it. At that point I have no idea what the result of that would be, nor is that hypothetical a concern of mine or the people looking into it. It is most likely nothing happens but it is equally likely that this benefits Trump as much as it could Clinton. If this widescale thing happened I am guessing it would be left to congress to decide who wins the election, which would still not go to Clinton. There is next to 0 chance of this causing her to win and Clintons group is aware of this and it has no bearing on what they are doing.

It is sour grapes to send your lawyers to watch the recount to help calm the minds of many people? When it is proven that Russia has tampered with this election in at least three proven ways: Fake news stories spread, Hacking DNC emails and spreading them and having hackers attempt to mess with voter registration in at least 2 states. Once again Clinton is not involved in the recount and did not start or request it simply sending a lawyer to watch it happen. This is also less of a recount (since that is not happening) and more of an investigation into assuring fair voting.

Based on your comments it sounds like you have not read anything about what is happening and why. Hard to have a discussion about it it tbh. As usual I assume you are trolling with your comments but if anyone else cares about this issue it is nice to get real information out about it.

Personally I think this type of post election investigation should be involved post every election.
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Based on your comments it sounds like you carry a heavy liberal bias and only read left leaning material. This works both ways.
 
Computer said:
Had Hillary won. Would we be talking about the same people looking for a recount, and wanting to look into this? The answer is no.

Cmon man. You arent that gullible are you?
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Lol

I am almost positive the same experts that found the discrepancy would have still pointed it out regardless of the outcome. Which is the reason this started. I am guessing Clinton would take the exact same action she is taking now by sending lawyers to watch the process.

We would be looking at a recount had Clinton won that is almost for sure. For the same reasons? I dont know but I doubt that. Trump is calling out wide scale voter fraud already and he won.
 
Computer said:
Based on your comments it sounds like you carry a heavy liberal bias and only read left leaning material. This works both ways.
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I actually read about the issue. I read many sources. You have not posted any nor provided any correct info about what is happening leading me to believe you just dont read any real material regardless of the bias.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I actually read about the issue. I read many sources. You have not posted any nor provided any correct info about what is happening leading me to believe you just dont read any real material regardless of the bias.
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Sure I read it. I just dont take what people in politics say seriously. How can anyone? Its non stop lying and spin jobs. On both sides.

Strip away all the nonsense they have to say, and what do you see? Its clearly an attack of one form or another on the legitimacy of the Trump presidency. Whether or not they get it overturned, they still are trying to do some damage. Its also a way of keeping the base from bailing on them. Even though its too late. They know that their base is a bunch of whiney children who need to be coddled. (see the riots...errr protests).
 
[MENTION=181]Ron Mexico[/MENTION] , good job trying to have a reasonable discussion with these two. It rarely ever works though. I see you posting about how you think this should be done for every election, and how you keep saying that this isn't about trying to gain hilary the presidency, and how trump wants to do the exact same thing except on a wider scale even though he won, and how this could actually get trump more votes, etc etc etc.
All hack and boris see is you as some naive gullible whiny liberal who only sees things one sided and its just the left attacking the right again and again. Poor things. I applaud your efforts but alas, your efforts will always be fruitless when it comes to these two.
 
fishonjazz said:
[MENTION=181]Ron Mexico[/MENTION] , good job trying to have a reasonable discussion with these two. It rarely ever works though. I see you posting about how you think this should be done for every election, and how you keep saying that this isn't about trying to gain hilary the presidency, and how trump wants to do the exact same thing except on a wider scale even though he won, and how this could actually get trump more votes, etc etc etc.
All hack and boris see is you as some naive gullible whiny liberal who only sees things one sided and its just the left attacking the right again and again. Poor things. I applaud your efforts but alas, your efforts will always be fruitless when it comes to these two.
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Please bruh. [MENTION=181]Ron Mexico[/MENTION] is pushing straight up leftist conspiracy theories. He ain't cryin that China operatives are influencing are election for liberal policies or that Morroco gave Clintons $13 million dollars or when illegals an dead people vote or when black panthers have voter suppression rallies. He is all leftist slant bro. They do not care when vote fraud helps there cause.
 
Computer said:
Sure I read it. I just dont take what people in politics say seriously. How can anyone? Its non stop lying and spin jobs. On both sides.

Strip away all the nonsense they have to say, and what do you see? Its clearly an attack of one form or another on the legitimacy of the Trump presidency. Whether or not they get it overturned, they still are trying to do some damage. Its also a way of keeping the base from bailing on them. Even though its too late. They know that their base is a bunch of whiney children who need to be coddled. (see the riots...errr protests).
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You can not reason with some one that thinks politicians an parties do not have an angle to play.
 
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