What's new

Following potential 2017 draftees...

Win or lose, this has been a brilliant performance(career-high) by Auburn Fr. Danjel Purifoy. He's actually been great for them all year, this game will draw some attention though.

He's definitely way underrated I've mentioned him a few times before. should certainly be listed by DX in their freshman rankings. He's got a build like Dwayne Bacon.

fet6bmvq5cvevtzkn86g


Shooting 38% from 3 on 6 attempts per
going into this game and he just went 4/7. Auburn lists him at 6'7" and 230lbs..

He just made 2 free throws to pull them ahead by 1 with 7.5 seconds and BC responded with a crazy game winning tip in.

27 on 8/14, 7/7 from the stripe 5 rebs, 2 ast, 2 stl. I really hope someone posts highlights of this, he passes the eye test easily. Nice looking shot.
 
I'm glad we don't have to worry about tanking this year, it would be a futile effort. There are already 11 teams under .400 win percentage, probably will be 13 when its all said and done. Last year, for comparison, 7 teams ended up under .400
 
The Purifoy show last night was convincing enough to put him in my next mock. I can't find highlights but here's a clip of him hitting a 3 plus the foul.
[tweet]]808461883237924864[/tweet]
He also hit a key 3 in this game with about 2 minutes to go, he was open but drilled it and turned around with a big smile on his face.

Givony was in the crowd so he definitely took note. He'll probably show up in the 1st rd of the 2018 mock, thats my guess.

Here's some older mixes, might've posted these here before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZayQWb7-Yk&spfreload=10 - Uploaded January 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfPwrLf2MM - Uploaded July 2014

Auburns top-3 scorers and only players over 7ppg are freshman. 4-star Purifoy looks like a better prospect than the 5-star recruit Mustapha Heron at this point, both are playing better than Bruce Pearl could've ever hoped for. Both are eventual NBA players IMO.

Purifoy - 31.4mpg, 16.4ppg, 4.9rebs, 3.0ast, 1.5stls shooting 41% from 3 on 6.1 attempts per.. and drawing a healthy amount of FT's.
Heron - 25.5mpg 15.4ppg, 6.5rebs, 1.1 ast, shooting .375 from 3 on 3 attempts per and drawing an unsustainable 7.4 FTA's on just 9.1 FGA's. Heron is 6'5" but more of a SF than SG, only ha a 6'8" ws tho.


This seems like a FSU from last season situation with Beasley and Bacon...

Here's some highlights from Heron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSAMinPrsI - the on court footage starts at 0:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VoEW9nC6gI
 
Perhaps South Carolina Sophomore P.J. Dozier will get some respect from DX after last nights showing, he's got some Alec Burks like qualities, he's got a lil Patrick McCaw to his game.. #46 on Dx's Sophomore list which is terrible.

Their So. Chris Silva looks worthy of being on the So. list somewhere too (which is hilariously awful, worst list on the site. It's amazing they just updated it on the 9th and it's still so bad).

He'll need to take on a tremendous offensive load without Thornwell, they almost need him to be Spencer Dinwiddie from Colorado a few years back.

Last year he shot 21% from 3 which was an anomaly. This year he's at 41% on 3.8 attempts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpaCDjqe6Bo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anNN0G9CPTo

At the end of the game last night with fractions of a second on the clock he took an 80-foot heave that missed by fractions of an inch. It hit front rim and then back rim and went out.. It was actually quite similar to the Hayward shot in the national championship but back at the FT line, a good bit behind the Jerry West shot in the finals..
 
Last edited:
Lonzo Ball's shooting mechanics transitioning to the NBA will be a very interesting storyline.

I actually dont think so.. He's transitioned so well to college I'm rather convinced it's legit.

The father had the brothers shooting like that from really deep range at an early age to train them. It appears to have worked, their extremely confident shooters, I'd say LaMelo is a cocky/borderline-disrespectful shooter..

The youngest brother shoots the same way and he's got no conscious, pulls up from 30-feet with regularity in HS games and makes it.. Check out this vid I posted in the 2020 thread a few days ago.
Lonzo's lil bro LaMelo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oer2ALh0vA8
 
****ed up mechanics like the Ball brothers have probably matter less in a modern NBA where midrange shots aren't as important. For instance, I have no idea how Lonzo Ball gets off a midrange shot going to his right if the defense is anywhere close to him.
 
I actually dont think so.. He's transitioned so well to college I'm rather convinced it's legit.

The father had the brothers shooting like that from really deep range at an early age to train them. It appears to have worked, their extremely confident shooters, I'd say LaMelo is a cocky/borderline-disrespectful shooter..

The youngest brother shoots the same way and he's got no conscious, pulls up from 30-feet with regularity in HS games and makes it.. Check out this vid I posted in the 2020 thread a few days ago.

Regardless of his siblings, when I just look at Lonzo:
His release is awfully low and slow, but it's funky. I think less skilled/athletic/lengthy D1 trash guards are still 1 level away from making up for his body.
When he played vs Kentucky, the 6'2 guard duo really pressured his release, made him uncomfortable even on close outs.
6'2 is roughly below avg nowadays in the NBA. Quality guard below that threshold are Paul, Conley, Lowry, Kemba and Thomas. The first two are very speedy heads-up players that can even crossmatch on bigger guards while still holding their own. I'm confident they'd find a way to pressure him up close and be quick enough to slide. A lot of other guards are taller anyways and could make him very uncomfortable with his release. Hill, Westbrook, Wall, Jackson, Payton, Delly, Rubio, Mudiay, Booker, Russell, Harden, Mills are 6'4 and taller. I probably forgot some. Some other smaller guys are athletic and/or pesky like Bledsoe, Beverly, Schröder, Rondo(back in the days lol) and even Rose when he's dialed in. I'd even argue that 6'3 Curry has enough length to be not a total disappointment against him.
A lot of teams found ways to tinker with hiding guys. Like if you're not confident matching up your 5'11-6'1 guard against a 6'6 dude with inconsistent ballhandling and limited athleticism and a weird shot, then you can still move over your nominal SG and find a spot to hide your PG on the least versatile wing who usually chills in the corner and isn't even a 40%+ corner threat.

THat's why I said it's gonna be interesting. If he can't find his shot early in his NBA career, shooting coaches will pressure him hard towards reworking his shot. Will he be open to that? Can time fix the issue where he getts more comfortable finding gaps and finding just enough time to pull the trigger? Can he improve a lot in other areas of the game so the defense has to respect his drive? I can see someone like Paul just putting insane pressure on him.
You probably catch a lot of UCLA games. Just observe how teams are already starting to force him left and then see how often he can finish at the hoop when he's forced to bounce it with his left. I always see him passing in those situations. Being predictable like that will make life hard for him in the NBA.
I like how he can read the floor and predict movement. With his height he'll find guys and he's really smart when it comes to realizing he's getting doubled and where the double comes from. Will he need a backcourt partner who's equally capable at creating action or can he run a show on his own. I think he'll be interesting to watch in his first years.
 
There's no way he's gonna seriously re-work his shot. thats how he shoots since he's a kid. His form is like Kevin Martin's but without as much crossing the ball over his torso.

It'd take at-least 2 seasons of dreadful %'s for him to consider it which I just can't forsee, the high volume of 3's he's making is a very strong indicator.

Shooting isn't his primary skill either. Teams will certainly respect his drive, you can't let him get to his spots or he'll slice you to pieces.
 
****ed up mechanics like the Ball brothers have probably matter less in a modern NBA where midrange shots aren't as important. For instance, I have no idea how Lonzo Ball gets off a midrange shot going to his right if the defense is anywhere close to him.

This is trivial. The answer is anticipation and feel for the game which he's got in spades.
 
There's no way he's gonna seriously re-work his shot. thats how he shoots since he's a kid. His form is like Kevin Martin's but without as much crossing the ball over his torso.

It'd take at-least 2 seasons of dreadful %'s for him to consider it which I just can't forsee, the high volume of 3's he's making is a very strong indicator.

Shooting isn't his primary skill either. Teams will certainly respect his drive, you can't let him get to his spots or he'll slice you to pieces.

Tbh 1 dimensional players never make it any longer these days. If you wanna be elite you need 2-3 skills. And so far I only see his court vision translating with a very high likelihood. High profile matchups where he's facing good defender this season will be very interesting.
 
I can mimic alot of different shooting forms I really don't want to try Lonzo's tho it'll screw up my mechanics.

The follow thru I use in game is a lefty imitation of Dirk, I **** the ball back further over my head like Michael Redd though.. so I'm used to releasing it really high. I actually find I've got the best range on my shot like that, so what Ball does is totally foreign to me.

Edit - you seriously can't post **** the ball back? ****
 
Last edited:
I can mimic alot of different shooting forms I really don't want to try Lonzo's tho it'll screw up my mechanics.

The follow thru I use in game is a lefty imitation of Dirk, I **** the ball back further over my head like Michael Redd though.. so I'm used to releasing it really high. I actually find I've got the best range on my shot like that, so what Ball does is totally foreign to me.

Edit - you seriously can't post **** the ball back? ****

But Dirk doesn't really do the catapult release. He's got a very stationary point of release, just flicks his giant hands very noticeably.
I don't mind the low release point of Lonzo tbh. Curry doesn't have a very high release either, but he's got a quick release. With his baby hop he reaches the apex very early and has a stable release point with the ball basically in front of his face, operating in time-windows that are within reaction time of his opponents.
Ball stops the dribble, holds it for a split second, but noticeably enough to give it away to good defensive players, at hip height and then enters his shooting motion(which by itself isn't that slow). The ramp up he needs before entering his shooting motion is a problem, but maybe it can be accelerated over time? I had to watch his releases again to be sure. I think it's a massive gamble that this shot as it is right now can be launched in the NBA without him being 7 foot tall.
UCLA's spacing is also way better than he'll ever find it in the NBA(45% or sth like that as a team), so the argument that better teammates will make it easier for him doesn't apply here. I don't think he'll ever find that much space even though the NCAA court is smaller.

NBA GMs that are interested will need really good background checks on him and psychological examination. He's got all that overcommitted daddy insulating him from outside influences all over him. Can he adapt once daddy can't strong arm his way to become head/assistant coach of his team?
 
But Dirk doesn't really do the catapult release. He's got a very stationary point of release, just flicks his giant hands very noticeably.
I don't mind the low release point of Lonzo tbh. Curry doesn't have a very high release either, but he's got a quick release. With his baby hop he reaches the apex very early and has a stable release point with the ball basically in front of his face, operating in time-windows that are within reaction time of his opponents.
Ball stops the dribble, holds it for a split second, but noticeably enough to give it away to good defensive players, at hip height and then enters his shooting motion(which by itself isn't that slow). The ramp up he needs before entering his shooting motion is a problem, but maybe it can be accelerated over time? I had to watch his releases again to be sure. I think it's a massive gamble that this shot as it is right now can be launched in the NBA without him being 7 foot tall.
UCLA's spacing is also way better than he'll ever find it in the NBA(45% or sth like that as a team), so the argument that better teammates will make it easier for him doesn't apply here. I don't think he'll ever find that much space even though the NCAA court is smaller.

NBA GMs that are interested will need really good background checks on him and psychological examination. He's got all that overcommitted daddy insulating him from outside influences all over him. Can he adapt once daddy can't strong arm his way to become head/assistant coach of his team?

Yeah I mean I try to catapult it and steady my aim at the end like you see from Dirk, I couldn't do that when I first started shooting this way but that was years ago back when the Mavs won the title, now its much easier cuz I'm stronger and have muscle memory.. I'm too used to shot faking above my head to change it now, I definitely don't think I'd get nearly as many bites on the fake if it was much lower..

I really think NBA teams will be more concerned with what Ball can bring to the table over worrying about his weaknesses.
 
Jawun Evans gets the nod so far for most improved player. From 12.9 ppg last year to 23.4 ppg. His PER jumping from 22 to an astronomical 36.9
His high free throw attempts (7) and steals per game (2.7) bode well for an NBA prospect despite his size.
 
Jawun Evans gets the nod so far for most improved player. From 12.9 ppg last year to 23.4 ppg. His PER jumping from 22 to an astronomical 36.9
His high free throw attempts (7) and steals per game (2.7) bode well for an NBA prospect despite his size.

I'm really not a big fan. 2nd rd grade in my book
 
I'm really not a big fan. 2nd rd grade in my book

He does have some red flags, like a 38% mid range jump shooter both this year and last, and 52% finishing around the rim (hoopmath).
I think he'd be good value with the GS pick though.
 
If Josh Hart is available with our first 1st round pick, I'd take Josh Hart.

The biggest Nova fan I know(who says they're gonna win the tourney every year) swears that Hart isn't improved from last year he just does a bit more with no more Arcidiacono, Ochefu and Phil Booth injured.

He says we'll see a similar 'step up' in play from Jalen Brunson next year, who he says can drop near 30 nightly right now if needed..
 
Dedric Lawson just missed a triple double last game by 2blocks. Tonight Vs Monmouth (in the best matchup on the schedule - ESPN3) he's got 10pts, 10 rebs 5ast and 2 steals at the half..
 
Back
Top