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And you want 20 mil per year?

Thee jazz fan said:
Why shouldn't he want a max deal?? He's never had the opportunity he's had now. He was a backup to Parker with the spurs and never had the ball in Indiana as he played third fiddle to George and Ellis. Now he's running the offense as an actual pg, and he's won us more then a few games.
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He had plenty of time as the second fiddle in Indiana before Ellis ever arrived.
 
I'm thinking 4 years, 80 sounds about right, and I could live with that, and so could we as a franchise, concerned with core retention and fluidity, imo. The question is could Hill. Once we start getting into the 4 for 90 range and beyond, things get a little scary.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I'm thinking 4 years, 80 sounds about right, and I could live with that, and so could we as a franchise, concerned with core retention and fluidity, imo. The question is could Hill. Once we start getting into the 4 for 90 range and beyond, things get a little scary.
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Yep 4 and 80 is my number as well
 
Unless he gets a serious injury or this toe thing lingers he will get more than 4/80. If that is his range he'd be extended already... it starts at 4/100 imo.
 
♪alt13 said:
What’s your number if Hayward says "Go ahead and talk with Hill first, then we'll talk."?
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"We don't believe that his asking price is equal to his value to the team, specially when you take into account the effect of that contract on our future ability to improve the team and resign current players. We are pursuing other options that we believe offer us more value, and we're using the difference to further improve the team."
 
Siro said:
"We don't believe that his asking price is equal to his value to the team, specially when you take into account the effect of that contract on our future ability to improve the team and resign current players. We are pursuing other options that we believe offer us more value, and we're using the difference to further improve the team."
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Hayward: "Well good luck with that. I have some homes to look at in Boston."
 
MT Steve said:
Hayward: "Well good luck with that. I have some homes to look at in Boston."
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Too bad then. Good luck in Boston.
Hayward isn't lebron. If I'm the GM/jazz management I'm not letting him hold the team hostage and tell us who we have to sign and how much we have to pay them.

I would only give that kind of power to a couple of dudes in the league. Only league mvp type players should have that type of power.
 
Siro said:
Let Hill ruin another team with a 4/$130m contract. I have no doubt that the Jazz would pass.

Get Jru Holiday. If not possible for ~$20m, then grab Collison or another good value PG.
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Great plan except we won't have cap space to do that so it's not possible.
 
fishonjazz said:
Too bad then. Good luck in Boston.
Hayward isn't lebron. If I'm the GM/jazz management I'm not letting him hold the team hostage and tell us who we have to sign and how much we have to pay them.

I would only give that kind of power to a couple of dudes in the league. Only league mvp type players should have that type of power.
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He won't get to have the say that Lebron does but losing Hayward would be catastrophic if it's a choice between Hill and Hayward at the max or neither I'd choose the max option.

Lose Hayward for nothing and we are in a full rebuild except that Rudy is so good we won't be bad enough to be bottom 7. We'd be in the 9-14 range which is basically death. If we lost Hayward may as well go full process... that way we can justify being last in the league in payroll... again. Everyone wins.
 
Siro said:
"We don't believe that his asking price is equal to his value to the team, specially when you take into account the effect of that contract on our future ability to improve the team and resign current players. We are pursuing other options that we believe offer us more value, and we're using the difference to further improve the team."
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But Dennis we have been last or near last in the league in payroll for a while... maybe we should pay somebody who is good instead of just looking for value.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He won't get to have the say that Lebron does but losing Hayward would be catastrophic if it's a choice between Hill and Hayward at the max or neither I'd choose the max option.

Lose Hayward for nothing and we are in a full rebuild except that Rudy is so good we won't be bad enough to be bottom 7. We'd be in the 9-14 range which is basically death. If we lost Hayward may as well go full process... that way we can justify being last in the league in payroll... again. Everyone wins.
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I just disagree with this.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
But Dennis we have been last or near last in the league in payroll for a while... maybe we should pay somebody who is good instead of just looking for value.
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But Gordon we have also went from 20 wins, to 30 wins, to 40 wins, and now to 50 wins and want to give you more money than anyone else can and make you our franchise player and have a team that is better than any other team out there offering you the max (and a smaller max) and have a team and coach and system that is perfect for you and helped get you chosen as an all star in the loaded west and you have made your home here and made your family here.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I'm thinking 4 years, 80 sounds about right, and I could live with that, and so could we as a franchise, concerned with core retention and fluidity, imo. The question is could Hill. Once we start getting into the 4 for 90 range and beyond, things get a little scary.
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fishonjazz said:
Yep 4 and 80 is my number as well
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lol, because:

Handlogten's Heros said:
Unless he gets a serious injury or this toe thing lingers he will get more than 4/80. If that is his range he'd be extended already... it starts at 4/100 imo.
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math. Bros.
 
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