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Following potential 2017 draftees...

Tadas Sedekerskis and Tyus Battle have been bumped into the 1st rd in 2018 on their mock too.. Interesting..

Sedekerskis would be a damn fine stash candidate for Utah this year IMO.. He's just a benchwarmer for Vitorio at this point tho, not sure why he'd be in unless its just to try and goad a promise.. Fans of DeAndre Bembry will like him.

He's a point forward, strong and athletic.. Better prospect than Royce White or Bembry IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZITEUiHH8U
 
Perhaps the most interesting machination in the latest DX update is Jarrett Allen up to #12, he's now the 2nd big off the board after Lauri.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-yXpl0zlLU

They had him in the top-10 of the 2018 mock before this, I think at 6. Now Williams is in that mock at 5, and Allen's in 2017 at #12 (Williams was 10th last update).


7'6" wingspan..
 
Hartenstein's stock will be evaluated in the hoops summit week. I think they do measuring stuff there as it's likely that he won't attend the combine due to the postseason schedule of his pro team in Lithuania. He'll start working out with teams late and if his agent is smart they'll limit the on court stuff to default practice drills as he won't have time to prepare specifically for those workouts unlike NCAA prospects who start their preparation as soon as they are eliminated from March Madness. The interview portion with individual teams and medical testing/measuring will also be important when it comes to generating tangible interest from teams.
 
PG_AB said:
@GoodmanESPN
Texas A&M’s talented forward Robert Williams will be returning for his sophomore season, sources told ESPN. Was projected as first-rounder.
12:03 PM - 21 Mar 2017
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He should at least be evaluated by the NBA to see what his stock is. I don't know why he would decide this fast. He's a likely lottery pick. That's a huge risk staying.
 
Good job ab. You should seriously consider finding a route to becoming a scout. It's apparent you have a real passion and skill for it. Just need to find a way to use all this info gathering you've done over the years and convince someone. Maybe start at a lower division college level? Or would that ruin the fun/passion for you?

"using your expiring assets to add depth to the squad rocks the boat too violently and may destroy our delicately balanced beamed cakk bakk" - me
 
Ostertag>Duncan said:
Good job ab. You should seriously consider finding a route to becoming a scout. It's apparent you have a real passion and skill for it. Just need to find a way to use all this info gathering you've done over the years and convince someone. Maybe start at a lower division college level? Or would that ruin the fun/passion for you?

"using your expiring assets to add depth to the squad rocks the boat too violently and may destroy our delicately balanced beamed cakk bakk" - me
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I'm confident that I'd do well. Not even remotely qualified tho, not sure how I could be less qualified other than if I didn't speak english... Probably would kill my joy too and I'm way stretched for time already have about 20 or so unfinished projects to work on, all sorts of different **** too, some involve aspects i'm still grossly incompetent on.. Some will take 10 years to complete at my current rate...

I'm able to draw 'actionable information' from some of this stuff tho, it doesn't go to waste. Even tho as I've said here 100x, it's just a hobby of mine..

I'm not exactly a huge proponent of doing a job that youre passionate about either, tbh. I think probably having a job that you like is more important. I really like not working for anyone, and ultimately I like what I do more than the idea of being some scout for a ****ty school. I'm not really a travel person either I had to go to JFK yesterday and it was a ****ing nightmare.
 
SCS said:
He should at least be evaluated by the NBA to see what his stock is. I don't know why he would decide this fast. He's a likely lottery pick. That's a huge risk staying.
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He's probably well aware that NBA teams are licking their chops at the chance to get him... There's no reason why he can't keep gaining steam, it's pretty much a fait accompli, he's fitting to blow up..

DX already has him over Wendell Carter which is a ridiculously strong vote of confidence.. He's dripping with upside.. Better prospect than Favors IMO, said it before..

I was posting that Robert Williams is a lottery lock but might have the potential to go top-5 this year not too long ago in this thread..
 
BTP said:
Hartenstein's stock will be evaluated in the hoops summit week. I think they do measuring stuff there as it's likely that he won't attend the combine due to the postseason schedule of his pro team in Lithuania. He'll start working out with teams late and if his agent is smart they'll limit the on court stuff to default practice drills as he won't have time to prepare specifically for those workouts unlike NCAA prospects who start their preparation as soon as they are eliminated from March Madness. The interview portion with individual teams and medical testing/measuring will also be important when it comes to generating tangible interest from teams.
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The label of most athletic big in the draft is now up for grabs since Williams is gone.

Will be very interested to see how he measures there.. Jarrett Allen probably his stiffest competition for that label.

2 weeks til the Hoops Summit. Can't wait. I'ma be rooting for the international squad for sure.
 
There's 3 seemingly legit pro prospects surfaced on the radar in the International crop of 2001 that I'ma be keeping a watchful eye on moving forward.

Mario Nakic - 6'5" swingman with guard skills, seems like a better prospect than Korkmaz, much stronger build. I'd venture to say he's gonna be one of the best Serbian born wings we've seen. Looks like he'd be a 5-star prospect in the HS class of 2019 ez..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYDoM98RxfY
Theo Maledon - 6'3" French PG with great physical gifts, nice speed and acceleration. Looks like he'd easily be a top-35 type in the class of 2019..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okYYZ3oOHqQ
Essome Miyem Nwal - 6'10 C thats rapidly growing. He can shoot ft's runs very well, has a great frame, lots of upside. His sister Nwal-Endene won a Silver medal with the womens French basketball team this past Olympics she's 28 and been a decorated pro for 10 years. . Looks like he'd be top-50 in 2019 with plenty of room to rise..

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PG_AB said:
The label of most athletic big in the draft is now up for grabs since Williams is gone.

Will be very interested to see how he measures there.. Jarrett Allen probably his stiffest competition for that label.

2 weeks til the Hoops Summit. Can't wait. I'ma be rooting for the international squad for sure.
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I'd say Hartenstein is a fluid athlete.
The event would've been more fun if Ntilikina was there. But I understand why he isn't. His draft stock is much more established as he's seen more pro minutes this year against better competition.
Plus his team started the national competition really below expectations and wants to finish strong before the playoffs. Missing 3 games because of an overseas showcase that won't help prop up his stock most likely is a huge risk for the team that has established a role as a spot up guy in their domestic league play.
He'd still have contributed big time to the quality of play for the international team.
 
I'm hearing from one of my buddies who really keeps his ear to the ground in North Carolina (he seems to know people adjacent to Giles camp) bout the local players, basically confirming what PKM posted weeks back, that Giles might not be in this draft..

Word is he's feeling iffy, and doesnt like the perception of him or his draft position...
 
Marquese Bolden's AAU Coach/ Trainer is apparently tweeting a bunch of negative Duke/ Coach K stuff.. Some are concluding he's gonna x-fer out.
 
Cam Oliver stands to benefit from Williams pulling out. Same type of skillsets, Oliver 2" shorter and obviously not as long, but still very long for a PF his size. has shown more 3pt range

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azprOmvJyg0

Turns 21 in a few months.
 
BTP said:
I'd say Hartenstein is a fluid athlete.
The event would've been more fun if Ntilikina was there. But I understand why he isn't. His draft stock is much more established as he's seen more pro minutes this year against better competition.
Plus his team started the national competition really below expectations and wants to finish strong before the playoffs. Missing 3 games because of an overseas showcase that won't help prop up his stock most likely is a huge risk for the team that has established a role as a spot up guy in their domestic league play.
He'd still have contributed big time to the quality of play for the international team.
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The stage is set for him to go flying up draft boards.

He can handle the ball on the break and he's 7', blocks shots and built like a house at 18 (almost 19)..
Robert Williams could've very well been the first big off the board..
 
White Chocolate said:
PG_AB would you trade Favors for a pick that would land Williams?


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Yeah very quickly, with the way the contracts line up it's a no-brainer.. (guessing u mean in the 2017 draft) That move also would clear some extra capspace..

Ideally u'd pair that move with stealing RFA JaMychal Green on a front-loaded 2 year deal with a player option for a 3rd..

U can also take another sort of SF/PF, PF/SF/ PF, PF/C, C/PF type with the later picks too.. Lets say D.J Wilson.. and Paceniks in the 2nd rd..

PF - Green, Lyles, Williams/Wilson, Hayward/JJ
C - Gobert, Williams, Paceniks

Is damn viable and half of them are just scratching the surface.. I really think the shotblocking ultimately would get even better with that sort of lineup. Green blocks shots, Williams is an insane shotblocker, Paceniks blocks shots and so does D.J. Wilson..

That team leads the league in blocks ez once they're all settled in.. Williams needs polish.
 
PG_AB said:
Yeah very quickly, with the way the contracts line up it's a no-brainer.. (guessing u mean in the 2017 draft) That move also would clear some extra capspace..

Ideally u'd pair that move with stealing RFA JaMychal Green on a front-loaded deal with a player option..

U can also take another sort of SF/PF, PF/SF/ PF, PF/C, C/PF type with the later picks too.. Lets say D.J Wilson.. and Paceniks in the 2nd rd..

PF - Green, Lyles, Williams/Wilson, Hayward/JJ
C - Gobert, Williams, Paceniks

Is damn viable and half of them are just scratching the surface..
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Who is the lowest ranked prospect you'd deal Favors for?


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SCS said:
He should at least be evaluated by the NBA to see what his stock is. I don't know why he would decide this fast. He's a likely lottery pick. That's a huge risk staying.
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There is probably some advantages to not doing that. Keep your skillset a little bit under-wraps so people can't see everything.
 
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