Trumpcare makes things worse
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The Thriller
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How has Donald acted over the past year to win people over? Insult an entire race and country? Make fun of a handicapped person? Use blatant racist Nixon-like rhetoric like "restore law and order?" And have you heard him speak about women???
Oh and Russia. Pretty obvious he colluded with the Russians to win.
Did obama have this much baggage??? Literally, has any president since Andrew Jackson maybe have this much baggage?
Let's watch him crash and burn and be impeached within the next year or so. He's got a sub .400 approval rating in what should be his honeymoon phase.
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Zombie
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That might be becuase most presidents aren't so foolish as to try to pass a bill with only 17% approval. We have a president who is unprecedentedly unpopular, and you wonder why so many people are pleased when he doesn't get his way?
Despite all the ********* political sheep spewed about Obama, his administration was one of the most drama-free. Hardly a crisis or controversy about his personal dealings, his integrity, his utter professionalism and dignity.
If I could go back and do it over again I'd vote for him, which I didn't do either time.
Plenty of policy scandals but I appreciated the substantial lack of personal scandals. One of my favorite things about Obama's presidency.
When you say policy scandals do you mean policies that were unpopular or something else?
DutchJazzer
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hey you are an obama lover take his advice: GET TO THE BACK OF THE BUS
DutchJazzer
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it wa snot drama free. the media just ignored the drama.
BENGHAZI
FAST AND FURIOUS
SPYING on AP reporters
IRS scandal
Pig ford SCANDAL
IRAN ransom Payment
VA DEATH List scandal
SOlyndra
bergdall exchange
suing arizona for enforcing the law
muslim brotherhood ties
his 300ishbilion(forgot the exact number) slushfund
and lots more
not to mention obama Knowing about hillaries email and covering up his emails to and from her
the media just chooses to ignore it, because the media was the coalition party. now they are the opposition party
DutchJazzer
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how is it obvious? how do you know. where can i see this information. wa she spied on by Obama to obtain this obvious ****?
I AM SERIOUS, how is it OBVIOUS?
DutchJazzer
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what does that have to do with anything!
you said obummer was scandal free. i gave you some of his many scandals.
and then you mention something about embassy people dying.
what does that have to do with scandal free obummer!
NOTHING. even if bush was literally Hitler for REAL not for play play(like people scream with trump), what bush did or did not do, has nothing to do with Obama having scandals or not
Red
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He's American. You're not. Fundamentally, it's none of your business. You do not have the right to tell an American what political opinion they can or cannot have where politics in America is concerned. By your own admission you do not participate in the political life of your own nation. Yet, somehow, you believe you have the moral authority to tell Americans how they should participate in the political life of their nation. It's fundamentally none of your business.
Red
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You need to have a little patience, son. It's coming....
https://www.towleroad.com/2017/03/damning-evidence/
DutchJazzer
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oh, cute. Our paradigm of virtue holding forth on morality. And why, exactly, is what Obama did in deliberately disseminating and unmasking intelligence material gathered on Americans, the Trump "team", not a felony offense that should be prosecuted in our courts?
Our globalist who want's massive immigration into all the "white" hellholes of despicable prosperity from the communal bliss of unspoiled Islamic and other third world utopias where nobody does anything wrong.
Because, according the elites who fund your intellectual leaders, this world needs to be managed. That's why they open their purse to set the ideological idealists out on the street to publicly promote various causes, both pro and con, because they need public problems to claim the power to fix them. They need a Trump to mobilize a war, because then the public will turn to them, "the experts" who know.
These monied cretins actually believe best way to solve the population crisis is to post-haste move the prolific breeders here and lock them down in our urban ghettos where the economics will quickly force the realization that a trip to the abortion clinic is the only way forward. What kind of racism is that? hatred of all the trailer trash worldwide and mass extermination of the unwanted breeding stock. And many thanks to the terrorists who blow themselves and a hundred others to oblivion any day of the week.
You have no more right to tell anyone their business than I do. Anyone who is a member of JFC has the same rights as you to think whatever they do about anything discussed here. I might question the motives of the site owners, whatever, but at least they see the point about members' equal rights to their opinions as long as it's civil.
Zombie
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You got a citation for that there claim partner or are you just shootin from the hip?
I really don't see any scandals related to Obama on your list. I don't consider Benghazi a scandal. It was an attack on one of our embassies. Can you explain what part of it is a scandal?
excellent question.
My recognition of this comes from Mark Levin radio show. Mark Levin was an assistant in the Justice Dept during the Reagan years, is a lawyer who knows the rules we're supposed to play by.
In his program, about four or five days after Flynn bowed out under pressure resulting from phone call information leaked from our intelligence agencies. Levin noted that during that time Flynn and Trump were essentially private citizens working on ideas for the incoming Administration. Those kinds of phone calls are protected by privacy law. For a government agent to leak them is a felony.
Then we have this from the New York Times:
"But Patrick Toomey, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, called the move an erosion of rules intended to protect the privacy of Americans when their messages are caught by the N.S.A.’s powerful global collection methods. He noted that domestic internet data was often routed or stored abroad, where it may get vacuumed up without court oversight.
“Rather than dramatically expanding government access to so much personal data, we need much stronger rules to protect the privacy of Americans,” Mr. Toomey said. “Seventeen different government agencies shouldn’t be rooting through Americans’ emails with family members, friends and colleagues, all without ever obtaining a warrant.”"
ttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html?_r=0
So right away, even before Obama gets clear of the office, leaks started happening involving US citizens, and Obama's last-minute move had no other purpose but to make the trail hard to follow. Obama was getting the information on Trump and his Associates on day one after his election, and he began organize opposition to the incoming administration then, making use of that information. His moves getting the rules changed were deliberate moves intended to cover his tracks.
Obama was definitely deliberate, and felonius, in these actions.
I'd love to take this pitch.
I would not think Obama or Hillary are just stupid, not for one minute. There had to be a reason they did not respond to hundreds of requests for additional security from the station chief at Benghazi. At first they claimed the attack was spontaneous, the result of local outrage about some movie or whatever. We now know Hillary told Chelsea the attackers were terrorists literally while it was happening.
But she did nothing, Obama did nothing to protect our people. That is the scandal, take one.
I think there was a reason they told our people to stand down, not to even defend themselves. There were munitions stacked there which Obama and Hillary knew would go to ISIS if seized during an attack like this. That is all they wanted. They want our ordnance in ISIS hands. A politically-clean "transfer".
Our people there were just supposed to stand down and let it happen. But hey, they disobeyed orders and played the heroes they are, and stood up for our laws and our real interests, and for that they lost their lives, and for that Obama and Hillary are the scum they are.
