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Trump Is The New JFK

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Of course, there are some people who don't want to see it. Wonder why.

Trump is not a conservative, though many conservatives find a lot to vote for in his ideas. Trump is more of an FDR or a JFK, really. He believes in "The American System", a vision of a pro-active government that enables human progress in fundamental ways. First advanced by Henry Clay in the 1830-40s, and then picked up by Abe Lincoln as a necessary thing for mankind. The alternative, competing paradigm across recent history, would have to be termed "The British System". The critical difference is the value placed on human beings, and the attitude embraced in government.

The American System has the idea of a credit system projected through Congress in a national bank. The idea of a national bank, controlled by Congress and owned by the citizens, versus private banks that more or less "own the government". Brigham Young, the great leader who established communities throughout the Great Basin, used a form of "national bank" in a sense, nominally termed the Tithing Office or Bishop's Storehouse.

Brigham had the audacity to incentivize a community of people with practically nothing except what they hauled here in wagons from the east. He sat down and wrote out "currency" in the form of tithing scrip, good for redemption at the Bishop's Storehouse, but also good among the Mormons for business with one another.

People took this scrip and went out to get things they needed to become productive, essentially giving themselves jobs. The secret of prosperity is right here. People who roll outta bed and go to work somehow, productively. They got themselves shovels and as a community dug canals and ditches, as private operators they planted fields and watered them with their community water shares. People who could make stuff.... carpenters, tradesmen, were suddenly in demand.

And for every scrip Brigham issues, the tithing office receipts more than covered the "debt", and there was stuff that could just be given to the truly needed who didn't have the ability or health at the moment to get productive. With communal efforts, these people built civic buildings, worship houses.....

So, anyway, this is somewhat the model FDR employed during the Great Depression. Not as effectively as Young, but a Mormon named Eccles, who recalled Brigham's method, was then the chief of the Federal Reserve, and discussed the model and convinced others of its effectiveness. The Federal Housing assistance loan programs were the direct result. An economist named Keynes invoked some of the concept in his theories.

Today, most Mormons do not know the principles Young taught, perhaps because in the 1890s the Chase banking interests made the Mormons their liege political allies, and under Heber J. Grant the Mormons were fundamentally transformed into Republicans.

There's a little band of FDR democrats who've taken Trump under advisement. Some of Trumps counselors are well aware of LPAC and the economics and scientific/technological programs advocated by LPAC.

JFK and Ronald Reagan had one big thing in common..... "American System Economics".... featuring lower federal taxes which actually incentivize production and economic revival and thence generate actually more tax receipts, like Young's "tithing scrip" and Bishop's Storehouse system.

Trump is on board with renewed investment in technology and science, supporting NASA programs. These kinds of investments have had huge returns in lifting up the general circumstances of mankind. . . . Here's Trump's speech, ignored by MSM morons....:

https://larouchepac.com/20170326/pr...ountrys-commitment-nasa-space-exploration-and
 
I remember JFK. Donald Trump is no JFK. And his cabinet appointments don't seem to be a realization of his promise to "drain the swamp" either. And his budget proposal does not seem to be a furtherance of the "Great Society" either. And his heath care bill did not seem to do much for poorer Americans or older Americans. They even tried to placate the hard line conservatives by removing coverage of essential services like emergency room visits and maternity leave.

JFK inspired Americans. Donald Trump depresses Americans. No, you're right babe, I don't see the analogy or comparison at all.

I don't believe your vision of Trump is rooted in the real world. And now Trump/Nunes are engaged in a coverup where the House Russian investigation is concerned. Don't believe it? Read the article from The New Yorker I posted this morning in the "Trump dumps" thread. They are engaged in a cover up. Just what do they have to hide? Nixon might be a better Presidential analogy them JFK, who is likely tossing in his grave hearing himself compared to Trump. But that's just me. I'm sure I'm blind as a bat from your perspective.
 
According to Steve Bannon, the Trump administration's aim is "to deconstruct the administrative state". That aim is furthered by the roll back of regulations involving the coal industry and CO2 emissions in general, announced yesterday via a series of executive orders. And evidenced by appointment of cabinet members who envision eliminating their agencies, such as Pruitt at the EPA. I can't see how deconstructing the administrative state makes Trump the new JFK! It's quite a ridiculous point of view I should think. But, what do I know? I'm rational....
 
Before the election I suggested that if he's elected, Trump's governing style would consist of using twitter and holding campaign style rallies. That seems to be the case, as it turned out, and, in both venues, he speaks only to his most fervent believers. To myself, that approach is best described as maintaining a cult of personality.

Other then in his address to Congress, which was well received, although some said it was because we had by then set the bar pretty low where Trump being Presidential was concerned, he has not spent any time at all reaching out to the millions of Americans who did not vote for him.

It should have gone without saying, it should have made simple political common sense, that a newly elected President spend time reaching out to those who did not vote for him, and making some effort to make those Americans feel like they too are appreciated every bit as much as his most dedicated followers. Yet, Trump has yet to demonstrate that level of political common sense. He speaks to his followers, and he treats any that did not vote for him, not as his fellow citizens, but as losers. At some of his campaign appearances during the election season, he referred to people who protested as "the worst Americans". And that is how he continues to view those Americans who do not agree with him, or his policies. That is how he continues to speak of them. And with this approach to governance, with this attitude to any American that does not agree with him, this is the new JFK??

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"-JFK

Suggested Trump revision: Unless you benefit financially from the fossil fuel industry, or are part of the 1%, ask not what your country can do for you.
 
Or is it because his actions will take the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust?

We spent that week practicing hiding under our school desks. My best friend's father built a bomb shelter in their basement....
 
Seriously though, how ****ty of a person was JFK? He once said he had to have four different women in each day, or he could not function.
 
Seriously though, how ****ty of a person was JFK? He once said he had to have four different women in each day, or he could not function.
Don't hate the playa, hate the game
 

Seriously, bro....

There may be a reason, a medical condition, underlying your two little incidents on the job. I know I've worked with people who defied the company rules on use of specific substances deemed dangerous in the workplace, so it's not like I don't understand. I have a friend who has a son who's got a serious problem, so I've been looking up the latest info.

pot has analogues to a critical signal for axonal development, important during infancy through early adulthood so long as the brain is developing. I left a link in the LTE there especially for you. I'd steer clear of using it anytime. It's not going to help, really.

This forum is not a serious place to look for any critical thinking going on.

It's a cold hard fact that JFK was killed because he wasn't going to cave to Wall Street and the CFR game. And sure, blame it on the Russians.
 
Or is it because his actions will take the world to the brink of nuclear holocaust?

Nobody's going to fire as long as Trump's little finger is on the button. China is going to hold NK in check, aside from rhetoric. Russia has got Iran straight.

So you're a bright guy. Did you look at the link? Here it is again:

https://larouchepac.com/20170326/pr...ountrys-commitment-nasa-space-exploration-and

Kennedy pushed the Space Program. And he cut the marginal rates on federal taxes, stimulating a huge economical surge.

Yah, he had a KGB agent on his tail reporting everything daily to Khrushchev, and he was using meth and boning women. But the Kremlin got to know him well enough, and made the right calculation to just pull those missiles outta Cuba and not push. In fact, they decided they could have better relations with the US because of him.

Like I've said before, the office of the President is not supposed to require all the virtues a nice Church Lady might think, it is not "Chief Moral Paragon". It is "Commander in Chief", supposed to someone who can direct a Patton or a Stilwell in winning a war.
 
Nobody's going to fire as long as Trump's little finger is on the button. China is going to hold NK in check, aside from rhetoric. Russia has got Iran straight.

So you're a bright guy. Did you look at the link? Here it is again:

https://larouchepac.com/20170326/pr...ountrys-commitment-nasa-space-exploration-and

Kennedy pushed the Space Program. And he cut the marginal rates on federal taxes, stimulating a huge economical surge.

Yah, he had a KGB agent on his tail reporting everything daily to Khrushchev, and he was using meth and boning women. But the Kremlin got to know him well enough, and made the right calculation to just pull those missiles outta Cuba and not push. In fact, they decided they could have better relations with the US because of him.

Like I've said before, the office of the President is not supposed to require all the virtues a nice Church Lady might think, it is not "Chief Moral Paragon". It is "Commander in Chief", supposed to someone who can direct a Patton or a Stilwell in winning a war.

Ok, I am gonna go ahead and call you a hypocrite. You are justifying the president being a meth head while at the same time you lecture someone about smoking weed? At least be consistent in your lunacy.
 
Seriously, bro....

There may be a reason, a medical condition, underlying your two little incidents on the job. I know I've worked with people who defied the company rules on use of specific substances deemed dangerous in the workplace, so it's not like I don't understand. I have a friend who has a son who's got a serious problem, so I've been looking up the latest info.

pot has analogues to a critical signal for axonal development, important during infancy through early adulthood so long as the brain is developing. I left a link in the LTE there especially for you. I'd steer clear of using it anytime. It's not going to help, really.

This forum is not a serious place to look for any critical thinking going on.

It's a cold hard fact that JFK was killed because he wasn't going to cave to Wall Street and the CFR game. And sure, blame it on the Russians.
You go over the line a lot?

I don't think this kind of personal attack is acceptable in polite discussion. It has nothing to do with the topic.

Slimeball garbage to be honest.
 
Nobody's going to fire as long as Trump's little finger is on the button. China is going to hold NK in check, aside from rhetoric. Russia has got Iran straight.

So you're a bright guy. Did you look at the link? Here it is again:

https://larouchepac.com/20170326/pr...ountrys-commitment-nasa-space-exploration-and

Kennedy pushed the Space Program. And he cut the marginal rates on federal taxes, stimulating a huge economical surge.

Yah, he had a KGB agent on his tail reporting everything daily to Khrushchev, and he was using meth and boning women. But the Kremlin got to know him well enough, and made the right calculation to just pull those missiles outta Cuba and not push. In fact, they decided they could have better relations with the US because of him.

Like I've said before, the office of the President is not supposed to require all the virtues a nice Church Lady might think, it is not "Chief Moral Paragon". It is "Commander in Chief", supposed to someone who can direct a Patton or a Stilwell in winning a war.

Trump is not qualified as an administrator of the U.S. Federal Government, and he is a nightmare as the Commander-in-Chief. He has already threatened military action against North Korea, something that would almost certainly result in the destruction of Seoul, South Korea and the death of more than 1 million people in the opening hours of any conflict.

Trump has already proposed the intentional killing of women and children.

I knew JFK (I actually didn't, I'm just going for a thing here) and Trump, sir, is no JFK.
 
Trump is not qualified as an administrator of the U.S. Federal Government, and he is a nightmare as the Commander-in-Chief. He has already threatened military action against North Korea, something that would almost certainly result in the destruction of Seoul, South Korea and the death of more than 1 million people in the opening hours of any conflict.

Trump has already proposed the intentional killing of women and children.

I knew JFK (I actually didn't, I'm just going for a thing here) and Trump, sir, is no JFK.
I have your number. You know nothing. I won't dignify your comment with a "sir" because I don't give oblique insults gratuitously. You believe what you believe, you are what you are. You don't care to look at information contrary to the wholly-owned Rockefeller/CFR Press, which is a far cry from a "free press", it is an insane asylum for mesmerized believers in fantasy.

Trump is not my idea of a great leader, neither is JFK or FDR. I see the value of the ideas. Trump is on board with more investment in the Space Program. yes, he wants to drain the swamp in DC and so far it looks like the aligators are in a feeding frenzy.

I like Putin and Russia. I don't think Putin is a Moral Paragon but he is rational. I don't believe the likes of Mark Levin calling him a KGB jailhouse murdering thug. Putin's KGB gig was in Germany, where he learned German and Western culture and values. I don't think the hype about his bad stuff is as credible as the hype about Hillary's bad stuff.

Putin is not an American, he is a Russian. You can count on him to act for Russian security concerns. Trump is an American, and you can count on him to act for American security concerns, finally, after years of Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas who were just nuts for phasing the US down to size politically and militarily and culturally to remove the "stigma" of American Exceptionalism.

It is unfortunate Trump is not a Constitutional scholar, though it's not unfortunate he has business management perspectives on re-structuring our government. I can understand how that might alarm some folks, but I think the alarms are unjustified. Trump is a big-hearted American who might talk the talk to get conservatives votes, but he's more of a liberal than many CFR acolytes or paid leftwing stooges who believe their political daily talking points. Which is what I actually think Red is, and a lot of other JFC hangers-on. Come on people, can't you suspend your vicious bile and just talk about stuff?
 
Seriously, bro....

There may be a reason, a medical condition, underlying your two little incidents on the job. I know I've worked with people who defied the company rules on use of specific substances deemed dangerous in the workplace, so it's not like I don't understand. I have a friend who has a son who's got a serious problem, so I've been looking up the latest info.

pot has analogues to a critical signal for axonal development, important during infancy through early adulthood so long as the brain is developing. I left a link in the LTE there especially for you. I'd steer clear of using it anytime. It's not going to help, really.

This forum is not a serious place to look for any critical thinking going on.

It's a cold hard fact that JFK was killed because he wasn't going to cave to Wall Street and the CFR game. And sure, blame it on the Russians.
Nope, no medical condition and don't smoke pot or use drugs.

My little incidents were mostly due to being overworked (I have worked at least 6 days per week every week since august with many 12 hour days included and sometimes multiple weeks without a day off at all . One of the incidents happened on new years eve, a saturday which is supposed to be my day off, while working a 12 hour shift after having worked the previous 8 days in a row) and working too hard and being too rushed (the other incident happened 5 minutes into my shift as the previous shift was behind on our work and i rushed to get us caught back up. Also I was consistently making more batches of yogurt daily than my counterparts. I have since slowed way down and am looking out for myself now instead of looking out for my company like I was before.)

And admittedly the first incident happened partially due to tons of repition causing me to get a little complacent. (Though if I were getting the proper amount of time off then I probably wouldn't have had as much repetition and maybe wouldn't have been as compacent)

Also, I have only called in sick to work once in the last few years (my back went out to the point that I literally laid on the floor of my living room for about 24 hours straight.... which the doctor told me made it worse. Have to keep trying to move it to get it to loosen up. ) and have not been late to work in like 10 years or so. I was also often skipping my breaks and lunches. (No longer doing that anymore)

So, like usual, you are wrong again and just talking out your ***.

Carry on
 
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Nope, no medical condition and don't smoke pot or use drugs.

My little incidents were mostly due to being overworked (I have worked at least 6 days per week every week since august with many 12 hour days included and sometimes multiple weeks without a day off at all . One of the incidents happened on new years eve, a saturday which is supposed to be my day off, while working a 12 hour shift after having worked the previous 8 days in a row) and working too hard and being too rushed (the other incident happened 5 minutes into my shift as the previous shift was behind on our work and i rushed to get us caught back up. Also I was consistently making more batches of yogurt daily than my counterparts. I have since slowed way down and am looking out for myself now instead of looking out for my company like I was before.)

And admittedly the first incident happened partially due to tons of repition causing me to get a little complacent. (Though if I were getting the proper amount of time off then I probably wouldn't have had as much repetition and maybe wouldn't have been as compacent)

Also, I have only called in sick to work once in the last few years (my back went out to the point that I literally laid on the floor of my living room for about 24 hours straight.... which the doctor told me made it worse. Have to keep trying to move it to get it to loosen up. ) and have not been late to work in like 10 years or so. I was also often skipping my breaks and lunches. (No longer doing that anymore)

So, like usual, you are wrong again and just talking out your ***.

Carry on

No, I believe the recent scientific studies on cannabinoids are valid. No political reason why a scientist would publish that report. The studies indicated that cannabis use by mothers during pregnancy, and in the home with youngsters, and by young teenagers through young adults have sustained cumulative changes in their brains, due to altered neural networking. It will affect you much the same as just overworking for example, with reduced capacity for awareness and executing complex tasks, or repetitive tasks. Anyone who claims Pot has no effects, as you have done with me before, has good reason to consider the recent reports.

I don't come here to do personal attacks. I basically think you're a decent person, my efforts to put out unconventional views are meant to alert others to stuff they maybe are not thinking about.

You come around looking for confirmation of existing beliefs, perhaps. This place has driven out people, dozens of people that I have seen, as the JFC piranha pack has just treated others with abysmal disrespect. You think you're cute with an lol when it's clear you learned nothing from the offering. What you are doing is an abject shame on this forum. Goes for the unthinking herd, too.
 
No, I believe the recent scientific studies on cannabinoids are valid. No political reason why a scientist would publish that report. The studies indicated that cannabis use by mothers during pregnancy, and in the home with youngsters, and by young teenagers through young adults have sustained cumulative changes in their brains, due to altered neural networking. It will affect you much the same as just overworking for example, with reduced capacity for awareness and executing complex tasks, or repetitive tasks. Anyone who claims Pot has no effects, as you have done with me before, has good reason to consider the recent reports.

I don't come here to do personal attacks. I basically think you're a decent person, my efforts to put out unconventional views are meant to alert others to stuff they maybe are not thinking about.

You come around looking for confirmation of existing beliefs, perhaps. This place has driven out people, dozens of people that I have seen, as the JFC piranha pack has just treated others with abysmal disrespect. You think you're cute with an lol when it's clear you learned nothing from the offering. What you are doing is an abject shame on this forum. Goes for the unthinking herd, too.
You missed the part in my post where I said that I don't smoke weed apparently. Maybe you are the one that is high lol.
 
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