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babe

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So I know I voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary, and all. But Hillary was down with the George Soros operation to destabilize Ukraine, and after signing off on selling 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians, after she got her millions in "donations" for her Clinton Trust campaign slush fund, and she certainly did all the wrong things as Secretary of State for securing peace in the Mideast. So how could Trump be any worse?

By listening to the British, that's how.

So here's a live phone conference tonight that might be of interest.....

https://listmail.larouchepac.com/t/ViewEmail/t/1743B6473CBBC80C/ADE8795522C38637765E7602346EC846
 
So I know I voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary, and all. But Hillary was down with the George Soros operation to destabilize Ukraine, and after signing off on selling 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians, after she got her millions in "donations" for her Clinton Trust campaign slush fund, and she certainly did all the wrong things as Secretary of State for securing peace in the Mideast. So how could Trump be any worse?

By being who he is, that's how.

So here's a live phone conference tonight that might be of interest.....

https://listmail.larouchepac.com/t/ViewEmail/t/1743B6473CBBC80C/ADE8795522C38637765E7602346EC846

Fixed that for you.
 
Fixed that for you.

ha ha. There probably isn't anybody who couldn't start WWIII just being a sociopath, like most politicians are. Hillary is definitely, imo, on the high range extreme rank on sociopathy. Trump might be in the 90th percentile, but still orders of magnitude beneath Hillary, and Obama.

Trump is the chump who listens to bawling babes and feels sorry for people, like when he listen to the Brit foreign minister all day long before trying to stop the gassing of babes in Iraq. Didn't occur to him that Assad might not have done the gassing, but ISIS provocateurs trying to split their enemies. Read the material supplied at the bottom of the page which describes recent reports of ISIS having the WMD gas and moving it to try to further provoke the irrational response Trump is inclined towards, apparently.

I'll agree with you that there needs to be a message sent to Trump to stop him from playing Napoleon. Get back to the fix for Obamacare.
 
ha ha. There probably isn't anybody who couldn't start WWIII just being a sociopath, like most politicians are. Hillary is definitely, imo, on the high range extreme rank on sociopathy. Trump might be in the 90th percentile, but still orders of magnitude beneath Hillary, and Obama.

Trump is the chump who listens to bawling babes and feels sorry for people, like when he listen to the Brit foreign minister all day long before trying to stop the gassing of babes in Iraq. Didn't occur to him that Assad might not have done the gassing, but ISIS provocateurs trying to split their enemies. Read the material supplied at the bottom of the page which describes recent reports of ISIS having the WMD gas and moving it to try to further provoke the irrational response Trump is inclined towards, apparently.

I'll agree with you that there needs to be a message sent to Trump to stop him from playing Napoleon. Get back to the fix for Obamacare.

I'm afraid to ask but uh, what exactly are you basing your idea that Obama and Clinton are sociopaths on?
Also, why do you think it was the dead babies that prompted the strike? He was firmly against any action against Syria the last time they gassed civilians
 
ha ha. There probably isn't anybody who couldn't start WWIII just being a sociopath, like most politicians are. Hillary is definitely, imo, on the high range extreme rank on sociopathy. Trump might be in the 90th percentile, but still orders of magnitude beneath Hillary, and Obama.

Trump is the chump who listens to bawling babes and feels sorry for people, like when he listen to the Brit foreign minister all day long before trying to stop the gassing of babes in Iraq. Didn't occur to him that Assad might not have done the gassing, but ISIS provocateurs trying to split their enemies. Read the material supplied at the bottom of the page which describes recent reports of ISIS having the WMD gas and moving it to try to further provoke the irrational response Trump is inclined towards, apparently.

I'll agree with you that there needs to be a message sent to Trump to stop him from playing Napoleon. Get back to the fix for Obamacare.

Babe, have you ever smoked weed? You should try it, it might do wonders.
 
Trump is doing everything possible to distract everyone from his inability to pass any meaningful legislation and Russian ties. It's quite humorous to see how much he's changed. He campaigned nonstop on his "America first forget the world" mantra. Now, he's completely forgotten about America and its need for health care and jobs and is focusing totally on the world. My only question is, how far down the rabbit hole will his cult follow him? War with Syria? Will they continue to support him if he invades North Korea?
 
whats wrong with a war!

if war is needed we should have a war!

but if a war comes humanity needs to go all out and be prepared!

usa took way to long to join ww2.

but i agree never start a war! just finish it!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
“There are two things which a democratic people will always find very difficult - to begin a war and to end it.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

What's wrong with war, indeed.

I'm reminded of the words from that old Petula Clark song:

"What the world needs now is war, sweet war,
It's the only thing that there's much too little of"......

Or maybe it was love, not sure, been years since I heard that song.....
 
And I'll bet the 50 million+ South Koreans are all looking forward to attacks from the North. Think I'll move to Seoul soon, what fun it will be. War, what is it good for? Hot fun in the Summer sun, that's what. Nothing like millions of people dying to make life worth living again.....
 
So I know I voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary, and all. But Hillary was down with the George Soros operation to destabilize Ukraine, and after signing off on selling 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians, after she got her millions in "donations" for her Clinton Trust campaign slush fund, and she certainly did all the wrong things as Secretary of State for securing peace in the Mideast. So how could Trump be any worse?

By listening to the British, that's how.

So here's a live phone conference tonight that might be of interest.....

https://listmail.larouchepac.com/t/ViewEmail/t/1743B6473CBBC80C/ADE8795522C38637765E7602346EC846

I'm not sure what this thread is about, so I'm gonna pretend it's about coming up with ideas to stop WWIII.

1. US stops posturing with China on NK, and just let's China have it's Global win by itself.
2. Russia will not be left out, and tear down Syria on their own terms.
3. US Topples itself way ahead of schedule.
4. China Russia posture against each other, Japan becomes 51'st state before Puerto Rico.
5. Babe plays Martyr, and everyone lets it happen because no one wants to deal with his ****.

What could go wrong?
 
“There are two things which a democratic people will always find very difficult - to begin a war and to end it.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

What's wrong with war, indeed.

I'm reminded of the words from that old Petula Clark song:

"What the world needs now is war, sweet war,
It's the only thing that there's much too little of"......

Or maybe it was love, not sure, been years since I heard that song.....

Wrong I was. Not Petula Clark. Jackie DeShannon.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8c2g9RYriZ4
 
If I was North Korea and everyone thought I was evil and made threats against me, I'd want to build up my defenses as well. I'd also want my enemies to know that I was able to defend myself. I would not want everyone else to attempt to force me into not being able to defend myself. And I would want everyone to leave me alone as I wouldn't really want to cause people to annihilate me and mine. I'm not saying that their leader isn't a bit nuts, but I would want to be doing the same thing that he is doing. Probably a simplistic view of the world, but in many ways I cannot blame countries that want to rebel against the USA and NATO.

I just hope we aren't poking the bear who would be content to hibernate a bit longer.
 
So many potential flash points to a WW3 scenario

Syria: Russia, Iraq, NATO, Iran, Lebanon/Hezbollah, Israel, Saudi Arabia's Sunni alliance

Ukraine/Baltics: Russia, NATO, Baltic states fears

N. Korea: Increased missile testing, China's backing, Japan and S. Korea who we are sworn to protect...

E. & S. China Seas: China, America, Australia, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan...Japanese and Chinese warplanes and warships in constant close quarters, American FON patrols, island building...

On top of all that you have America's affinity for war with an aggressive and unpredictable President.

Over all I see a NATO/Sunni/Israel alliance gearing up to face a Sino/Russian/Shia alliance. Increased military spending, forging military alliances, positioning forces, sanctions, treaty/sanction violations...

Nations are picking sides and preparing their civilians and militaries. I'm not saying war is inevitable but to me the world is clearly on the path to major world war.
 
Apparently the USA armada isn't headed to North Korea after all. We're playing games?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/despite-talk-of-a-military-strike-trump%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98armada%e2%80%99-was-a-long-way-from-korea/ar-BBzZDde?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

BEIJING — As tensions mounted on the Korean Peninsula, Adm. Harry Harris made a dramatic announcement: An aircraft carrier had been ordered to sail north from Singapore on April 8 toward the Western Pacific.

A spokesman for the Pacific Command linked the deployment directly to the “number one threat in the region,” North Korea, and its “reckless, irresponsible and destabilizing program of missile tests and pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability.”

Defense Secretary James Mattis told reporters on April 11 that the Carl Vinson was “on her way up there.” Asked about the deployment in an interview with Fox Business Network that aired April 12, President Trump said: “We are sending an armada, very powerful.”

The U.S. media went into overdrive and Fox reported on April 14 that the armada was “steaming” toward North Korea.

But pictures posted by the U.S. Navy suggest that’s not quite the case — or at least not yet.

A photograph released by the Navy showed the aircraft carrier sailing through the calm waters of Sunda Strait between the Indonesian islands of Sumatra and Java on Saturday, April 15.

In other words, on the same day that the world nervously watched North Korea stage a massive military parade to celebrate the birthday of the nation’s founder Kim Il Sung, and the press speculated about a pre-emptive U.S. strike, the U.S. Navy put the the Carl Vinson, together with its escort of two guided-missile destroyers and a cruiser, more than 3,000 miles southwest of the Korean peninsula — and more than 500 miles southeast of Singapore.

Instead of steaming towards the Korea peninsula, the carrier strike group was actually headed in the opposite direction to take part in “scheduled exercises with Australian forces in the Indian Ocean,” according to Defense News, which broke the story.

Neither Pacific Command nor the Pacific Fleet responded immediately to requests for comment. On Monday, Pacific Fleet spokesman Cdr. Clayton Doss said only that the USS Carl Vinson and its escorts were “transiting the Western Pacific,” declining to give a more precise location except to rule out the waters around South Korea or Japan.

The presence of the U.S. carrier strike group, and the threat of a U.S. military strike on North Korea, had weighed heavily on Chinese minds and in the media here. Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned “storm clouds” were gathering and the risk of conflict rising.

The news that the ships weren’t where everyone assumed them to be was greeted with some glee in the Chinese media Tuesday.

“Tricked badly!” the Global Times exulted on its social media account. “None of the U.S. aircraft carriers that South Korea is desperately waiting for has come!”

Was it all a misunderstanding, or deliberate obfuscation?

Cai Jian, an expert from the Center for Korean Studies at Fudan University in Shanghai, said the whole episode was part of an elaborate game of “psychological warfare or bluffing” by the United States, arguing that Washington never really intended to launch a military strike on North Korea right now.

“At the peak of the standoff, psychological warfare is very important,” he said.

Ross Babbage, a non-resident senior fellow at the Center for Strategic Budgetary Assessments, a Washington-based think tank that focuses on the military, said the move may be “military signalling” from the U.S.

“It’s more than a bluff,” he said. “A bluff suggests you’re not serious. My understanding is that this U.S. administration is dead serious, it’s been 40 years of trying to get the North Koreans to back away from the nuclear weapons.”

Babbage said it was also possible the United States administration had decided to give China a little time to put its own pressure on North Korea before sending the carrier strike group north: Trump met his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on April 6 and 7 and spoke by phone on April 11, and may have wanted to give the Chinese some breathing space to before “rattling the bars,” Babbage said.

Nor should the aircraft carrier’s presence, alone, be given too much weight, he added, since any early strikes on North Korea would likely have been carried out by long-range aircraft.

While the belief that the Carl Vinson was heading towards Korea was reported as fact by media outlets around the world, there were hints it was perhaps not steaming there as fast as many supposed. On April 11, USNI News reported that although the carrier had cancelled port calls in Australia, it had not canceled training events to move faster toward the Korean Peninsula, and would still take more than a week to enter waters near Korea — a point that was lost amid heated talk of “war.”

In any case, the carrier strike force may indeed be finally heading north now.

The Korea Herald reported Monday that the USS Carl Vinson is due to arrive in South Korea’s eastern waters on April 25, in time for another important date in the North Korean calendar: the anniversary of the army’s foundation. Quoting unnamed South Korean officials, the Herald said “the strike group will join the South Korean Navy in a massive maritime drill designed to counter provocation from the North.”

CNN also cited U.S. defense officials as saying the aircraft carrier will arrive off the Korean Peninsula at the end of April.
 
I had read that the Vinson was ordered up there but it takes time to get there. Not that it was already there.

Either way it appears they are headed there now.
 
“There are two things which a democratic people will always find very difficult - to begin a war and to end it.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

What's wrong with war, indeed.

I'm reminded of the words from that old Petula Clark song:

"What the world needs now is war, sweet war,
It's the only thing that there's much too little of"......

Or maybe it was love, not sure, been years since I heard that song.....

living in a warzone is still better than to live in a communist state!
 
If I was North Korea and everyone thought I was evil and made threats against me, I'd want to build up my defenses as well. I'd also want my enemies to know that I was able to defend myself. I would not want everyone else to attempt to force me into not being able to defend myself. And I would want everyone to leave me alone as I wouldn't really want to cause people to annihilate me and mine. I'm not saying that their leader isn't a bit nuts, but I would want to be doing the same thing that he is doing. Probably a simplistic view of the world, but in many ways I cannot blame countries that want to rebel against the USA and NATO.

I just hope we aren't poking the bear who would be content to hibernate a bit longer.

if you was north korea and everythougft you was evil would you also have concentration camps? and let your people die of hunger?


there is choric malnutrition going on there before korea split up in 2 the people of those country where the same now north koreans are on average few inches shorter!
 
living in a warzone is still better than to live in a communist state!

Give me a break. I extremely doubt you know any damn thing about that. And you can spare me your ignorant 'logic" about why that is. You don't know the first damn thing about living in a war zone.
 
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