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hell are we going to stop the Clips from scoring a billion points in the paint EVERY SINGLE GAME?

I mean, the first game was a catch-them-by-surprise kind of game since they had game-planned for Rudy and didn't expect the level of resistance they ran into when he went down. I firmly believe they thought we would just roll over and play dead without Rudy.

And even with them scoring in the paint at will we hung around in the 2nd game. Obviously we have the firepower to go at it.

But if we cannot clog up the paint even just a little bit it is as good as over. 80% in the paint >>>>> 40% from 3, unless you can jack up 30+ 3's at that clip. To equal that 60+ points in the paint, we needed to MAKE 20 3's. I don't think we even shot 20, did we?

So what do the arm-chair coaches think? How are we going to cut their points in the paint to at least 40 (which is a more respectable 3-pointer number required to match...14 makes)?



Edit: of course this goes without saying the assumption is that Rudy doesn't come back within the next few games, or he comes back a bit hobbled.
 
Put some fodder out there to shove them around. Hack a Jordan.

I don't remember Favors being such a trash defender, he needs to step it up.

The real answer is Rudy gets healthy.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Put some fodder out there to shove them around. Hack a Jordan.

I don't remember Favors being such a trash defender, he needs to step it up.

The real answer is Rudy gets healthy.
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I agree with hack-a-Jordan. Whithey needs to clock him once or twice. And for hell's sake figure out how to disrupt that stupid lob. It is so heavily telegraphed, it is no secret it is coming. Is it really as unstoppable as superman? Come on.

And yes, Favors needs to find his legs, if they are there at all. He looks slow and out of it. There were at least 6 runs to the rim they had with Favors a single step away and he made no move to the rim at all.
 
In the game chat I mentioned my displeasure with the experimentation at C. I really think we should have tried a couple of things once it was clear that Favors wasn't going to be a net positive and that Withey wasn't somebody we could rely on. The experiment I want to see is Bolomboy. Baptism By Fire, I know; but he has 6 useful fouls and the ability to play 5-out sets on offense (which pulls DAJ out of the paint). The odds that this works for extended minutes are low, but we cannot repeat the plan we had for game 2 and expect to hold home-court advantage through game 4.
 
LogGrad98 said:
hell are we going to stop the Clips from scoring a billion points in the paint EVERY SINGLE GAME?

I mean, the first game was a catch-them-by-surprise kind of game since they had game-planned for Rudy and didn't expect the level of resistance they ran into when he went down. I firmly believe they thought we would just roll over and play dead without Rudy.

And even with them scoring in the paint at will we hung around in the 2nd game. Obviously we have the firepower to go at it.

But if we cannot clog up the paint even just a little bit it is as good as over. 80% in the paint >>>>> 40% from 3, unless you can jack up 30+ 3's at that clip. To equal that 60+ points in the paint, we needed to MAKE 20 3's. I don't think we even shot 20, did we?

So what do the arm-chair coaches think? How are we going to cut their points in the paint to at least 40 (which is a more respectable 3-pointer number required to match...14 makes)?



Edit: of course this goes without saying the assumption is that Rudy doesn't come back within the next few games, or he comes back a bit hobbled.
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Jazz are holding the Clips 12 points below their average scoring output. The Clippers offense is far from impressive. The real concern is how are the Jazz going to score more points?
 
There isn't a way to stop them in the paint unless Rudy comes back.
 
NAOS said:
In the game chat I mentioned my displeasure with the experimentation at C. I really think we should have tried a couple of things once it was clear that Favors wasn't going to be a net positive and that Withey wasn't somebody we could rely on. The experiment I want to see is Bolomboy. Baptism By Fire, I know; but he has 6 useful fouls and the ability to play 5-out sets on offense (which pulls DAJ out of the paint). The odds that this works for extended minutes are low, but we cannot repeat the plan we had for game 2 and expect to hold home-court advantage through game 4.
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Yes, their low number of free throws is a double-edged sword. On the one hand it is good we didn't send them to the foul line very often, but the other much sharper side is that it happened because we allowed them to run lob/dunk/lay-up drills with little to no resistance all night. Somewhere along the line someone has to get physical with them inside. Tell Whithey to knock someone down. Put in Bolomboy with instructions to take out Jordan every time he gets near the ball or rolls to the basket. Make them earn something inside for once.
 
Its tough when this is how Favors plays "defense" now. His vertical is like 6 inches max and he refuses to actually put a body on anyone.

[video=youtube_share;JNmn4zH80GU]https://youtu.be/JNmn4zH80GU
 
Is it crazy talk to think about maybe both Favors / Withey out there at the same time? Or does that make us too ****ty on offense to even consider?
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Put some fodder out there to shove them around. Hack a Jordan.

I don't remember Favors being such a trash defender, he needs to step it up.

The real answer is Rudy gets healthy.
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Favors struggles against bigger/stronger/faster players like DeAndre Jordan. He is best at dominating physically with his combination of size and explosiveness.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Maybe. The problem is that Withey really really sucks against DeAndre.
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as evidenced last night, everyone does. Withey however does have a surprisingly high defensive rating so far through the two games. playing against the bench helps that greatly i imagine.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Favors struggles against bigger/stronger/faster players like DeAndre Jordan. He is best at dominating physically with his combination of size and explosiveness.
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he definitely used to dominate with explosiveness. he can barely jog or jump 6 inches off the ground at this point in his recovery.
 
jope said:
as evidenced last night, everyone does. Withey however does have a surprisingly high defensive rating so far through the two games. playing against the bench helps that greatly i imagine.
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Withey really gives up in area rebounds to DeAndre more than anyone else though. Favors at least puts a body on him relatively well and can rebound his area

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jope said:
he definitely used to dominate with explosiveness. he can barely jog or jump 6 inches off the ground at this point in his recovery.
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Yeah. That's my point. He dominated people by being more athletic and bigger at the pf position. With DeAndre he is none of those things, even if he was fully healthy.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah. That's my point. He dominated people by being more athletic and bigger at the pf position. With DeAndre he is none of those things, even if he was fully healthy.

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How about putting Lyles in and telling him you have 6 fouls and you had better use all of them. Perhaps throwing CP3, Paul Pierce and Blake to the floor would be a good start.
 
Thats really the problem the don't have a big body on the bench. Remember when Shaq entered the league? Teams stocked up on massive lumps to pound on him in the middle.
 
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