Would you take lillard if...

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Would you take lillard if you had to take on the contracts of Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner?

If they called and asked for a package of a couple of either exum, hood, Lyles, favs or draft picks?

Portland is in a contract hell with who they have signed.

McCollum has played well and is bigger then lillard.

This is a what if because Leonard and Turner have awful contracts.

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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Would you take lillard if you had to take on the contracts of Meyers Leonard and Evan Turner?

If they called and asked for a package of a couple of either exum, hood, Lyles, favs or draft picks?

Portland is in a contract hell with who they have signed.

McCollum has played well and is bigger then lillard.

This is a what if because Leonard and Turner have awful contracts.

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They will want early lotto picks, something the jazz don't have plus Exum and Hood at the very least.

 

[Douchebag K]

with Leonard and Turner and their contracts ?? Hell no.

 

[bovice]

Id rather have McCollum, but I'd take Lillard and 1 of those contracts, but not both.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

They will want early lotto picks, something the jazz don't have plus Exum and Hood at the very least.

Not if the jazz are bailing them out from 2 awful contracts.

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[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Id rather have McCollum, but I'd take Lillard and 1 of those contracts, but not both.

It would have to be Turner's. Lillard and Turner and you are getting 40 million in salary. Figure Hayward at 26+ and Rudy's extension kicking in at 21. That is a lot of salary for 4 players almost 90 million.

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[jope]

Lillard would be a force on this team.

 

[fishonjazz]

Id rather have McCollum, but I'd take Lillard and 1 of those contracts, but not both.

This

 

[framer]

Portland is entirely screwed. Lillard is good, but no team is going to pay what amounts to almost 60 million in salary for him. Leonard and Turner are almost next to useless. Additionally,

 

[Joncolton]

I'd be willing to take on one bad contract as part of a deal for Lillard - it would totally be worth it. That being said, don't sleep on George Hill - somehow he quietly had an amazing series vs the Clippers.

16.9 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.7 apg, 48% FG, 39% 3P, and he controlled the tempo like a maestro, all while playing terrific defense on the best point guard in the NBA in Chris Paul.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Portland is entirely screwed. Lillard is good, but no team is going to pay what amounts to almost 60 million in salary for him. Leonard and Turner are almost next to useless. Additionally,

They aren't screwed. They are in a decent spot. This thread is dumb. Blazers aren't unloading a star just to get cap space.

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[framer]

They aren't screwed. They are in a decent spot. This thread is dumb. Blazers aren't unloading a star just to get cap space.

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The Blazers are $30 million into the luxury tax next year for an 8th seed. That looks pretty screwed to me. Moreover, where does their internal growth come from? Additionally, that 8 seed is not a given next year as Denver and the T-Pups are going to pass Portland.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Blazers are $30 million into the luxury tax next year for an 8th seed. That looks pretty screwed to me. Moreover, where does their internal growth come from? Additionally, that 8 seed is not a given next year as Denver and the T-Pups are going to pass Portland.

They got plenty of young players, draft picks, and a promising young center. They have plenty of room for internal growth. They also have one of the richest people in the world owning their team. Being in the lt is only a problem if your owner says its a problem.

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[MDAV28]

They got plenty of young players, draft picks, and a promising young center. They have plenty of room for internal growth. They also have one of the richest people in the world owning their team. Being in the lt is only a problem if your owner says its a problem.

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They will need to clear space for that young center after next season. While I agree with you that nobody is going to give up Dame to unload salaries (unless he requested to be moved), Portland is not in a great spot. You are paying Crabbe, Turner, Harkless, and Leonard over 50% of the salary cap for the future. I don't care who your other players are, you are in a bad spot unless they suddenly make a dramatic improvement.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

They got plenty of young players, draft picks, and a promising young center. They have plenty of room for internal growth. They also have one of the richest people in the world owning their team. Being in the lt is only a problem if your owner says its a problem.

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There is a incremental penalty for going over the tax, which means thehigher you go over, the harder you get penalized. In addition to that, there is a repeat offender tax that kicks in if you are in the tax 3 of 4 years, which means you can only be in the tax two years and then have to be out at least two years to avoid hitting it again.

What that means is that 30 million over isn't what's being paid. It's considerably more than that, but in two years, they will get hammered by the repeat offender penalty. I haven't bothered to do the math, as they don't even have info for teams over 20 million into the tax, but I'm guessing they could be 100 million into the penalty after two years.(the incremental maximums are confusing to me, so someone who's better with numbers could probably get a better estimate https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q21)

This team could easily be paying a king's ransom to perpetually be scraping their way into the a first round asskicking, year after year, or possibly coming up short of even making the playoffs. Nurkic is gonna have to stay healthy and they are going to have hit on at least one of their draft picks.

They look pretty screwed to me for the moment. Rich guys don't get rich by throwing away money, year after year on treadmill teams. I'd be willing to bet they lose at least one pick dumping Turner or Leonard.

 

[framer]

They got plenty of young players, draft picks, and a promising young center. They have plenty of room for internal growth. They also have one of the richest people in the world owning their team. Being in the lt is only a problem if your owner says its a problem.

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Which players in particular are you expecting growth from? How do they get the ball enough times to make a difference with their current usage? They need defense, badly, and Jusuf Nurkić isn't the answer.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They will need to clear space for that young center after next season. While I agree with you that nobody is going to give up Dame to unload salaries (unless he requested to be moved), Portland is not in a great spot. You are paying Crabbe, Turner, Harkless, and Leonard over 50% of the salary cap for the future. I don't care who your other players are, you are in a bad spot unless they suddenly make a dramatic improvement.

Why do they have to clear space? They have bird rights.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Which players in particular are you expecting growth from? How do they get the ball enough times to make a difference with their current usage? They need defense, badly, and Jusuf Nurkić isn't the answer.

Nearly every player on their roster. Is anyone over 28 on that roster?

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[MDAV28]

Why do they have to clear space? They have bird rights.

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Having absolutely 0 cap flexibility is something you should only really do as a contender. You severely limit trades, obviously you are completely out of the Free Agent Market. So if you think this roster can be a contending roster than by all means pay Crabbe, Turner, Harkless, Leonard 55+ million.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Having absolutely 0 cap flexibility is something you should only really do as a contender. You severely limit trades, obviously you are completely out of the Free Agent Market. So if you think this roster can be a contending roster than by all means pay Crabbe, Turner, Harkless, Leonard 55+ million.

They could as much as anyone not named Warriors/Caves.

Cap flexibility is great and all, but its only so valuable if you can't land top tier free agents. Blazers got a good team that has potential. This thought they are in a bad spot is absurd. They got a rich owner and a fun/young team. There is plenty of room for growth internally with all the assets they have.


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