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We should move on from George Hill

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The Jazz should look at the market and see who they can get. If they can't keep Hill for a reasonable cost, or get George, Lowry, etc., for a reasonable price, what do you expect them to do?

Money talks, but many players want to live in certain places, etc. The Jazz are attractive because they have a competitive team, that just needs a couple more pieces. However, if the market demand for Hill is $30M, and the Jazz can't get anyone else, I think we have to keep him. Does anything think Hayward stays if we lose Hill and don't piece up equivalent pieces?

Hill is the type of player that should still be really good at 35. His length and IQ will keep him going. His play pre-injury was simply amazing. Having had foot problems, and knowing the extent it can cause on performance (without necessarily keeping you off the court) I am totally sympathetic.

Simply put, if the Jazz let Hill walk over $5-$10M, and we don't have a good replacement we can lock up, I can almost guarantee Hayward walks. And I wouldn't blame him.
 
JAZZGASM said:
The Jazz should look at the market and see who they can get. If they can't keep Hill for a reasonable cost, or get George, Lowry, etc., for a reasonable price, what do you expect them to do?

Money talks, but many players want to live in certain places, etc. The Jazz are attractive because they have a competitive team, that just needs a couple more pieces. However, if the market demand for Hill is $30M, and the Jazz can't get anyone else, I think we have to keep him. Does anything think Hayward stays if we lose Hill and don't piece up equivalent pieces?

Hill is the type of player that should still be really good at 35. His length and IQ will keep him going. His play pre-injury was simply amazing. Having had foot problems, and knowing the extent it can cause on performance (without necessarily keeping you off the court) I am totally sympathetic.

Simply put, if the Jazz let Hill walk over $5-$10M, and we don't have a good replacement we can lock up, I can almost guarantee Hayward walks. And I wouldn't blame him.
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The money will decide this issue. If he goes too high we wave goodbye.

I loved Hill before his injuries so part of me wants him back, but damn the amount of injuries are very alarming.
Gobert and Favors manned up and played through them he could not.
 
Let George hill walk. He obviously wants more than the jazz want to pay him. I would rather get a younger mediocre pg at a good price than a older George hill at a high price

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Revolution 9 said:
The money will decide this issue. If he goes too high we wave goodbye.

I loved Hill before his injuries so part of me wants him back, but damn the amount of injuries are very alarming.
Gobert and Favors manned up and played through them he could not.
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*his injury

George Hill had a single serious injury that will not heal entirely until he gives it significant time to heal. Like an off-season. His other issues were caused by this single injury.

This is not nitpicking. It's ****ing important to recognize.
 
Revolution 9 said:
The money will decide this issue. If he goes too high we wave goodbye.

I loved Hill before his injuries so part of me wants him back, but damn the amount of injuries are very alarming.
Gobert and Favors manned up and played through them he could not.
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If losing Hill means losing Hayward, do we still wave goodbye? That is the issue.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Gobert and Favors manned up and played through them he could not.
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I think this depends entirely on the kind of injury. Yes, it was incredible that Rudy made it back after that knee sprain. Yes, Hayward had that messed up quad or whatever heading into the playoffs. The issue Hill seems to have been dealing with wasn't just a normal sprain, it seems. I think he would have rather played than not.
 
Getting a concussion from someone elbowing you in the face doesn't prove that you are injury prone. It proves that someone elbowed you in the face.
 
LifeOnaPlate said:
I think this depends entirely on the kind of injury. Yes, it was incredible that Rudy made it back after that knee sprain. Yes, Hayward had that messed up quad or whatever heading into the playoffs. The issue Hill seems to have been dealing with wasn't just a normal sprain, it seems. I think he would have rather played than not.
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I understand that. And also the foot is probably the most important thing in playing basketball. Having had a bone bruise that wont go away I can attest to that. He also wasn't able to play through a thumb injury earlier. He seems to have a tough time playing through things. It must have been bad to be listed as questionable and not suit up for an elimination game.
 
People do realize that it's gonna take a 4 year deal to keep Hill right? Next year it probably doesn't look so bad but are Jazz fans honestly thinking through just how bad it could be in years 3 and 4 of that deal?
 
jazzman12 said:
People do realize that it's gonna take a 4 year deal to keep Hill right? Next year it probably doesn't look so bad but are Jazz fans honestly thinking through just how bad it could be in years 3 and 4 of that deal?
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That's why there's a stretch provision.
Also, how comfortable are you that Hay will stay if Hill doesn't?
 
GVC said:
The Jazz will have to dump Hill, Favors, Burks and Boris to free up cap space to sign Jrue.
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Dump Hill? He is no longer under contract. Boris can be dumped with ease, and Favors and Burks would be factors if we had to re-sign Hill as well.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think him ending the season in a suit will hurt his value even with the bottom feeders. San Antonio may come knocking but I'd feel safe offering more than they can/will I think.

I think we keep him for somewhere in between 20-25 per over 4 years.
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I think I'm very relucant but okay with anything up to 22 mill a year for three years.

Anything more, and I'd rather cut Burks and trade away assets and go for a Jrue instead.

Obviously these pieces are all in flux-- Jazz should speak to multiple agents at the same time. If Jrue is double the price of George Hill *obviously* you dont go for him. But if the price difference is negligible, it really is ****ing obvious who you go for.

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Also, LOL if y'all think that the Spurs can't put together a 4/25mil package together for George Hill.
 
jazzman12 said:
People do realize that it's gonna take a 4 year deal to keep Hill right? Next year it probably doesn't look so bad but are Jazz fans honestly thinking through just how bad it could be in years 3 and 4 of that deal?
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jazz fans want Hill to sign a fair contract, and are failing to understand that we will need to overpay him in order to keep him away from the Spurs-- which are by all means a better prospect for Hill than Utah.

So the question becomes this-- should we overpay Hill, or go after another PG instead? Choice is pretty obvious if other options can be had for a similar price.
 
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