I need to dig up some old Hornacek footage from his Phoenix and Philly days.
Following potential 2017 draftees...
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I need to dig up some old Hornacek footage from his Phoenix and Philly days.
stormkoopacv03
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I remember that time I had a really good feeling about CJ McCollum but the Jazz passed on him, just like they passed on Devin Booker for Trey Lyles. The name Trey is bad news for the Jazz, perhaps?
I think he is still liked a lot, the draft just got a lot deeper with how many people are declaring and staying in the draft as well as other upperclassmen like Ojeleye coming up.
I like Kurucs more than Kennard. More size, length and speed. I think defenders will get to Luke and he'll have to alter his game a bit to be effective at the NBA level, kind of like how Redick and Beal had to.
Nope. I like the depth of this draft. I think having four picks is a great spot to be in.
A couple guys mentioned here:
Bam Adebayo - Should be able to do the things Favors did this year, but on rookie scale. Has very similar physical attributes. He's not the elite pick-and-roll finisher that Favors was 2 years ago, but he could evolve into one. It's not clear if the Jazz would want to go this direction for a PF/C, but Bam's physical attributes alone are lottery caliber. He'll shoot out to 18 feet pretty consistently, compete on the boards, finish around the rim and defend out to the perimeter.
Donovan Mitchell - Will be able to create and score in this league. He has athleticism, instincts and body control that make him comparable to CJ McCollum (as a rookie) and Dion Waiters. Will he blend well into Quin's offensive scheme and move the ball, or will the ball stick? I don't know, but he should be able to switch and defend. The Jazz desperately need a guy who can break a defense and get into the paint. Mitchell should be able to do that. He's an 81% FT shooter and averaged 5 rebs per game. He's undersized for a 2-guard, but could come off the bench and provide instant offense.
Hartenstein - I think he's going be very good. I just don't see how he's a PF. His feet don't seem quite quick enough and his ball skills out on the floor don't fit the modern PF role, though he's actually a surprisingly willing and skilled passer. I think he'll functionally be like Steven Adams, but with a jump shot and more driving/scoring ability.
Bam Adebayo - Should be able to do the things Favors did this year, but on rookie scale. Has very similar physical attributes. He's not the elite pick-and-roll finisher that Favors was 2 years ago, but he could evolve into one. It's not clear if the Jazz would want to go this direction for a PF/C, but Bam's physical attributes alone are lottery caliber. He'll shoot out to 18 feet pretty consistently, compete on the boards, finish around the rim and defend out to the perimeter.
Donovan Mitchell - Will be able to create and score in this league. He has athleticism, instincts and body control that make him comparable to CJ McCollum (as a rookie) and Dion Waiters. Will he blend well into Quin's offensive scheme and move the ball, or will the ball stick? I don't know, but he should be able to switch and defend. The Jazz desperately need a guy who can break a defense and get into the paint. Mitchell should be able to do that. He's an 81% FT shooter and averaged 5 rebs per game. He's undersized for a 2-guard, but could come off the bench and provide instant offense.
Hartenstein - I think he's going be very good. I just don't see how he's a PF. His feet don't seem quite quick enough and his ball skills out on the floor don't fit the modern PF role, though he's actually a surprisingly willing and skilled passer. I think he'll functionally be like Steven Adams, but with a jump shot and more driving/scoring ability.
seattlejazzfan
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Not even close. Ib underestimated his inability to actually learn to play basketball. The more i watched Bam the more i thought he didn't look like a basketball player. He's big, strong, and athletic and I'd take him late first and hope he figures it out, but over time he went from underrated to one of my least liked guys in the draft.
Hart is widely considered a second-rounder, no?
If first-round talent like Ojeleye, Adebayo, Wilson or Diallo are available at 30, you have to grab one of those.
If first-round talent like Ojeleye, Adebayo, Wilson or Diallo are available at 30, you have to grab one of those.
I would take Jordan Bell over Lessort. I think Lessort has more offensive potential but I believe Bell has elite defensive potential. I think he can make all defensive teams. He's such an explosive athlete. I've seen plays where he jumps two or three times before the opposing player gets off the ground once. He can switch on pick and rolls too. He's quick and has good instincts. I like Bell a lot.
If the Jazz stayed put at #14 in that draft, they might have felt obligated to take a flier on Giannis.
fgcamel
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Maybe it's third times a charm when it comes to treys.
Well, this guy likes Ojeleye...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_MXyYJu0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_MXyYJu0I
NBA Combine is this week. Projected draft positions are sure to shift once the measurements and interviews happen.
Game6Conley
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Game6Conley
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Or Schroder and the PG position would've been solved...
Game6Conley
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Yeah. Josh Hart is a player I'm pretty sure the front office is gonna like. His best asset might be his indomitable will. He's just fearless.
Ojeleye's spot in the first is far from secure, he's definitely somewhere on the fringe. He's pretty much a year older than Trey Lyles.
His measurements are really going to matter--e.g., length and standing reach. Teams are going to want to play him at the 4, which he played mostly at SMU. If teams think he's a tweener who's too small to consistently guard 4s, it could easily push him to the 2nd round.
Draymond, Kawhi, even Carmelo, have plus length.
stormkoopacv03
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If they did, I wonder how we Jazz fans would've reacted? Maybe just like the Knick fans did on draft night with KP. lol Man, if we traded Favors and the 12th pick for the 4th pick before the draft and selected KP.
I don't think his measurements are that important. He has measurements from 5 years ago, they aren't great. I think having the prototypical 7' wingspan at the 4 is less important. Its not like he is going to be a starting 4.
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