I'm probably going to watch the EuroBasket final four to make up for the conference finals. What time do those games come on?
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2016-17 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD
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I am really hoping that the Jazz take a big step forward for next season and it wouldn't hurt me if another 2-3 teams did as well.
I'm tired of the LeBron/GSW show.
Having say, GSW. Spurs, Jazz, Cavs, Wizards and Raptors as legit contenders would make things far more interesting. Enough of this A or B crap. Give me multiple choice.
I'm tired of the LeBron/GSW show.
Having say, GSW. Spurs, Jazz, Cavs, Wizards and Raptors as legit contenders would make things far more interesting. Enough of this A or B crap. Give me multiple choice.
That's why I say we really need a hard cap going forward to spread the talent around a bit. If the cap is increased each year to reflect League's revenue I don't see why the Players Association wouldn't be supportive of it? It will also make a much better product - people are bored to death of these playoffs so far this year.
And to Cy's argument that "Oh it wouldn't be good if teams like OKC can't keep all the young talent they've groomed" - well tough. Talent needs to be spread around for the League to be more fun and interesting - period.
lauriandres
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IMHO artificial "make everything equal, i will cry if my favourite team loses" is also not good for the sport. Should the top runners (both sprinters and marathon runners) run little bit slower, because otherwise some person feelings are hurt? Or soccer clubs in Europe should not be as strong as legally possible? It is not the fault of Durant and Curry, that others are not dedicated enough. For example, what or who is preventing a la Exum or Gobert to practise three point shooting as long as they hit a three pointer almost everytime no matter where he is located on the court? The court and ball and rules are same for everybody; the only thing that NBA should get rid off is the star treatment. Although both Olympics and World Championships have shown, that it does not matter much. Other teams besides Team USA had plenty of time to prepare and hone skills but still lost.
Your analogy doesn't quite fit.
In the NBA, teams in big cities like New York, LA, etc, have a lot more money to spend due to their geographical location because of the spending power of their fan base. Therefore the teams are more likely to be able to afford the Luxury Tax, meaning the Luxury Tax rule clearly favors those big market teams vs small market teams that cannot afford to pay the Tax.
The hard cap, on the other hand, would impact all teams equally as their financial status do not come into play like the Luxury tax does.
Going back to your runner analogy, it would be like some runners running in sneakers and some runners running barefoot. With everything else being equal, which runners do you think would have a better chance at winning a marathon?
Olympiakos CSKA = 4:30 hours from now
Fenerbahce Real Madrid = 7:30 hours from now
Coach Ellis
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Hoping Teodosic shows up in a big way and justifies the Jazz interest in him.
seattlejazzfan
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Where can you watch these games?
Coach Ellis
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I have no problem with the soft cap and max contracts, but I feel like the new Designated Player and other team extensions should have been even stronger for home teams to keep their stars. Utah and Indiana should have been able to offer clearly more money to Hayward and PG13 if they wanted to. By not doing it, I think that the league actually encourages guys to jump to other "more desirable" locations. I think that small market teams should have held out a little more to make sure those provisions had more teeth than just a single extra guaranteed year. Either higher percentages of increases for home teams, or (better yet) lower percentage increases that other teams could offer.
Sounds like he may not be fully healthy still and maybe not able to go. Anybody in Europe there with more reliable info?
Teodosic definitely has the James Harden body language on defense. Seems like they do their best just to hide him off ball. To his credit I didnt see him have any mental lapses on defense where he got beat on a backdoor or missing a switch, but it's pretty obvious he just can't guard at all. He would have to be hidden on whoever was the least threat to dribble the ball.
He also has a lot of James Harden on offense too. He has a tight handle, can pull-up on a dime, and quick release.
He also has a lot of James Harden on offense too. He has a tight handle, can pull-up on a dime, and quick release.
lauriandres
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I am saying that it is not the fault of the runner who can afford sneakers that some other runner does not have the same resources. Running the marathon with sneakers is not a right that is specified in the constitution or somewhere similar. I would also like take a part in some competition - showed the organisers edit the rules so that i can also have chance of winning? Whether it is the running or tour around the world with a yacht.
Another problem is that NBA is not a league, more like a franchise. Every team needs other teams and all have to be friends with each other. Not like Karpov vs Kasparov.
I can see why Epke Udoh is so good in Europe. Most of these European big men seem pretty easy to switch on for guards to take advantage to pull up for 3 on. They cant do that on Udoh.
Well the NBA isn't like a marathon in that in a marathon 'anyone' can compete. That's why I said the original analogy doesn't quite fit. The NBA is a 'collective' of 30 teams that came together and set up its own rules about how the League should be run. That's why every rule change requires 23 votes to get passed. See the lottery vote that didn't get passed a few years back: https://www.nba.com/2014/news/10/22/lottery-reform-vote.ap/
Central to the NBA's core principle is the fact that all 30 teams has the chance to compete for the title regardless of the market size. Adam Silver had said this numerous times. Also the fact that revenue is distributed evenly amongst the team supports this. So if 23 teams feel like they don't have a good enough chance to be competitive under the current system, and that a change is needed (i.e., putting in a 'hard cap'), I believe it can be achieved.
I think the EuroLeague Regular Season standings do not show all the truth....Fenerbahce has the most complete roster, the best coach and they are playing in front of their home crowd.
I guess they were waiting this moment all the season especially after they lost the Euroleague final in Berlin last season.
The biggest takeaway from this series is that Boston is going to 100% trade IT next year.
Then we should be right there making an offer.