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dytide said:
Jordan Bell had a real great combine .

Might have to take him at 24 if we want him.
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I can guarantee you that teams are going to miss not taking him.

I don't know how good he's going to be. But he's got freakish athetlicism and a kawhi Leonard like motor. I'd strongly consider him at 24 and definitely take him at 30. At the very least he could come in and play backup to Favors, average a few dunks, get us a few offensive rebounds, and block a shot. His athleticism is and motor are just fantastic. At the very least he's Tristan Thompson/young Paul Millsap.
 
The Thriller said:
I can guarantee you that teams are going to miss not taking him.

I don't know how good he's going to be. But he's got freakish athetlicism and a kawhi Leonard like motor. I'd strongly consider him at 24 and definitely take him at 30. At the very least he could come in and play backup to Favors, average a few dunks, get us a few offensive rebounds, and block a shot. His athleticism is and motor are just fantastic. At the very least he's Tristan Thompson/young Paul Millsap.
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He isn't nearly as big as Favors though so couldn't double as a backup center. He does seem to have a good motor and is a ferocious competitor.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He isn't nearly as big as Favors though so couldn't double as a backup center. He does seem to have a good motor and is a ferocious competitor.
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You're right, he wouldn't be able to play backup center. I guess I always figured that if Favors were healthy he'd be our starting 4.
 
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stitches said:
They drafted Lyles more for his playmaking than for his shooting.
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You misspelled balance...

His ball handling and driving could be good and when his shot was on he really helped the offense.

I see the idea of Lyles, but I'm really questioning the mental makeup. Seems almost too relaxed. He needs to get some seriousness/intensity to him. I hate that Locke said he checked out when he was out of the rotation. He could have easily gotten 30 minutes a night if he got/stayed ready... Gobert has spoiled me I guess... I like guys that when they are out of the rotation work their asses off to make sure it doesn't happen again. Not just get salty and pout.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He isn't nearly as big as Favors though so couldn't double as a backup center. He does seem to have a good motor and is a ferocious competitor.
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He could play backup center... the league is getting smaller and faster.

My biggest concern on him was just how awful his boxing out was at times. He can easily correct that. I'd rather have a backup big that can switch on the perimeter... not many post up bigs anymore. I think he has to play like a center on offense, but he can pass and playmake.

I like a lot of the bigs in this draft... we need to come away from the draft with one of them.
 
stitches said:
They drafted Lyles more for his playmaking than for his shooting.
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Yeah, I think they drafted him for his entire skillset and the fact that he has legitimate PF+ size.

One thing I've thought about, and I think I heard it in a podcast somewhere, is the body fat % test. Trey Lyles measured out with 12.1% body fat. The guys on the podcast were saying the issue isnt them being slightly overweight, but what it could say about their work ethic. If a player is coming in out of shape into the combine then that is most likely a bad sign about their discipline.
 
The longer I follow trey Burke, the less I blame Lindsey for that one.

Trey lyles is still a mystery to me.
 
mellow said:
The longer I follow trey Burke, the less I blame Lindsey for that one.

Trey lyles is still a mystery to me.
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Ridiculous upside has a piece today that blisters the Wizards bench for lack of productivity vs. the Celtics. I guess Trey didn't endear himself to Coach Brooks.
 
Trey Burke made the All-Rookie 1st team and averaged 12.8 PPG to go with 5.7 APG. He had a 3/1 assist-to-turnover ratio. He shot 90.3% from the free-throw line. Burke's biggest problem was he couldn't shoot the ball. Some of that had to do with his finishing ability due to his size and confidence issues I think as well. I don't blame anyone for that pick because at the time it was a home-run.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, I think they drafted him for his entire skillset and the fact that he has legitimate PF+ size.

One thing I've thought about, and I think I heard it in a podcast somewhere, is the body fat % test. Trey Lyles measured out with 12.1% body fat. The guys on the podcast were saying the issue isnt them being slightly overweight, but what it could say about their work ethic. If a player is coming in out of shape into the combine then that is most likely a bad sign about their discipline.
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There is a lot of truth to this statement. The season is done and it is time to stop working.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
There is a lot of truth to this statement. The season is done and it is time to stop working.
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Well the thought is if they arent working hard to be in the best possible shape during the combine/workouts, then what will motivate them? That should be a period when they are really trying to look their best to teams. That isn't gospel, I know Millsap had a weight issue going into the combine, so idk. It's just something to think about This year most of the prospects were in a pretty solid shape besides Tyler Lydon, who was %13.6 body fat which is pretty poor given the fact he isn't exactly a guy with a big body frame.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Well the thought is if they arent working hard to be in the best possible shape during the combine/workouts, then what will motivate them? That should be a period when they are really trying to look their best to teams. That isn't gospel, I know Millsap had a weight issue going into the combine, so idk. It's just something to think about This year most of the prospects were in a pretty solid shape besides Tyler Lydon, who was %13.6 body fat which is pretty poor given the fact he isn't exactly a guy with a big body frame.
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Very true. It would be like going to a job interview right after rolling out of bed

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one of the reasons i like to watch work out videos i like to see how the player approaches the work out. You will see how they end their work outs. For an instances do they push past the point of ending or can you see they they know it is ending and give up early. Are they pushing through with all the energy or are they coasting.

it is not always clear but sometimes you can see it.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Well the thought is if they arent working hard to be in the best possible shape during the combine/workouts, then what will motivate them? That should be a period when they are really trying to look their best to teams. That isn't gospel, I know Millsap had a weight issue going into the combine, so idk. It's just something to think about This year most of the prospects were in a pretty solid shape besides Tyler Lydon, who was %13.6 body fat which is pretty poor given the fact he isn't exactly a guy with a big body frame.
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I agree... if they aren't at least motivated by the humongous paycheck you think they are going to really catch fire when they have already made a few million. Trey's mental makeup/work ethic may not be what we hoped for... Locke has said he's a worker, but that may mean that he is just shooting and not doing the hard stuff.

I don't think he'd net much in a trade... wish we could move away from him and get a decent asset.
 
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