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Hm.... I don't know... The language of the original source is that he has opted out, not that he will.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-hawks-star-paul-millsap-opts-free-agency-155705808.html

Maybe they are wrong. I don't know.
Couldn't find it in the CBA FAQ, but I found this in a forbes article: "Below are the Top 5 players that have the option to opt out of their contracts at the conclusion of the NBA Finals and are expected to be on the free agent market sooner rather than later."

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It makes way more sense that it would after the Finals are over. That is why every report you read says reportedly, intends to or plans to. Just google "opt out nba" and look at the results from the last 24 hours.

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I want Terrence Ferguson in the worst way. I think he made a huge mistake going over seas instead of going to college, if he had I think he'd be out of our range right now. Fact is he's young with less experience then most. He doesn't play much, but everytime I watch his highlights, it just looks sooooo good. It just pops out at me. And from reading about him he's improved a lot as well as his roll on his team, and seems taylor made for the jazz offense. He's way underrated.

I'm not a fan of Ferguson at all. He's one of the few prospects I want the Jazz to avoid in the first round. He didn't shoot the ball well with Adelaide or in high school. He relies heavily on three pointers on offense and he shot 31.3% from three with Adelaide. He doesn't get to the free throw line. His turnovers outnumber his assists. His defense is uninspiring. He's really skinny at the moment. His mix tapes are flashy and he might be in some dunk contests but his game at this point has no substance. He's a REALLY raw prospect. I don't see a single NBA level skill in his game. It's not to say he can't develop, but in a draft this deep with talent I would avoid him in the first round. I'd be hesitant taking him at 42.
 
Yeah he's a restricted free agent next summer

And teams are gonna give up the 10th-12th pick for that?

I don't see it. Yeah, we did it for Hill but we were a lot closer to taking a major step than Charlotte or the TWolves or Detroit. We also already had/have a ton of developing youth and didn't necessarily need another youngster so much as we did a vet to lead us and solidify the 1. Does Hood really do this for any of these teams? He's much more unproven than Hill. Maybe most importantly, this draft is good as hell and a legit player could be had in this range, a much better player imo than last year.

I don't see it happening but maybe the TWolves would bite because Thibs is half-desperate and in win now mode and Hood fits a need and Levine would be better off the bench anyway.
 
And teams are gonna give up the 10th-12th pick for that?

I don't see it. Yeah, we did it for Hill but we were a lot closer to taking a major step than Charlotte or the TWolves or Detroit. We also already had/have a ton of developing youth and didn't necessarily need another youngster so much as we did a vet to lead us and solidify the 1. Does Hood really do this for any of these teams? He's much more unproven than Hill. Maybe most importantly, this draft is good as hell and a legit player could be had in this range, a much better player imo than last year.

I don't see it happening but maybe the TWolves would bite because Thibs is half-desperate and in win now mode and Hood fits a need and Levine would be better off the bench anyway.

The Jazz gave up the 12th pick for a player with 1 year left who was going to be a UFA. Hood is going to be a RFA, so yeah, it's possible.

I think Detroit is very close to making a major step. If Jackson/Drummond play to their potential and KCP makes a step along with Hood, they could get home-court in the East. And SVG is a Coach/GM, he is more prone to dealing picks for ready now players if he feels he has to win right now. They were 44-38 last year and actually played the Cavs fairly close (still lost in 4, but 3 of the games where within 10 points, and two within 5). They heavily underachieved this year, but I could see them being a 50 win team if they get back on track and add a guy like Hood (and he plays well).
 
All that and still won't get out of the second round. Let's face reality here, only reason jazz got out of first round This year is because Clippers were missing their best player. Even without them took Jazz 7 games. This is not a roster that can make noise in playoffs

Jazz will offer 2018 OKC pick to dump Burks. The Jazz may not mind going $5M into LT for a 55+ win team that's top 3 in the WC.

In that scenario, they've also picked up a replacement back-up C that may help them move Favors, plus a #12 lottery pick. That would be a score. Yeah, not sure it happens.
 
They are owned by one of the richest people in the world. So try again saying they are in bad shape financially. Their future is much brighter then the Jazz. Fact.


QUOTE=Catchall;1424709]Whomever the Jazz take back in a trade needs to either be a player the Jazz likes or needs to be a player the Jazz can move in a year.

The Blazers could offer some simple deals like:
-- Ed Davis for Diaw and pick swap (shorter deal)
-- Mo Harkless for Diaw and pick swap (longer deal)
-- Aminu for Diaw and pick swap (longer deal)

The Blazers are in really bad shape financially. They're in the luxury tax with their current payroll and no rookies or extensions.

I'm not sure it's worth moving up to 15 though. I guess it depends who is still on the board.[/QUOTE]
 
The Jazz gave up the 12th pick for a player with 1 year left who was going to be a UFA. Hood is going to be a RFA, so yeah, it's possible.

I think Detroit is very close to making a major step. If Jackson/Drummond play to their potential and KCP makes a step along with Hood, they could get home-court in the East. And SVG is a Coach/GM, he is more prone to dealing picks for ready now players if he feels he has to win right now. They were 44-38 last year and actually played the Cavs fairly close (still lost in 4, but 3 of the games where within 10 points, and two within 5). They heavily underachieved this year, but I could see them being a 50 win team if they get back on track and add a guy like Hood (and he plays well).

I think if we offered Hood for #12 itd be a done deal. KCP plays the 3 Tobias or Morris plays four... if you squint hard that's a top 4 team in the East.

Coach/GMs are prone to making ST moves that are not great... I think I'd try to get Stanley Johnson in the deal too. I think they have too many combo forwards and that he hasn't had enough of an opportunity to play the four. I still believe in the talent there.
 
They are owned by one of the richest people in the world. So try again saying they are in bad shape financially. Their future is much brighter then the Jazz. Fact.


QUOTE=Catchall;1424709]Whomever the Jazz take back in a trade needs to either be a player the Jazz likes or needs to be a player the Jazz can move in a year.

The Blazers could offer some simple deals like:
-- Ed Davis for Diaw and pick swap (shorter deal)
-- Mo Harkless for Diaw and pick swap (longer deal)
-- Aminu for Diaw and pick swap (longer deal)

The Blazers are in really bad shape financially. They're in the luxury tax with their current payroll and no rookies or extensions.

I'm not sure it's worth moving up to 15 though. I guess it depends who is still on the board.
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Aminu and Harkless are both good value deals... don't think they'd attach a pick swap. Just because their owner is a mega billionaire doesn't mean he wants to pay luxury tax for a team that may not make the playoffs. They also have a lot of picks and not a lot of roster spots.

I could see Meyers Leonard plus the 20 or 26 moving. If we moved Burks and Favors salary that might be a deal we'd do, but for now it would put us in a bind salary wise. BKN should be all over that if true.
 
All that and still won't get out of the second round. Let's face reality here, only reason jazz got out of first round This year is because Clippers were missing their best player. Even without them took Jazz 7 games. This is not a roster that can make noise in playoffs

The Jazz would have swept the Clippers with a healthy Rudy in the first three games and a healthy Hayward in game four. Stop.
 
I doubt they would have swept them.

The only game the Clippers may have possibly won is game 2. But it's unlikely. That's the game where they had a massive advantage in points the paint at home and still only won by 8. It's the only reason they won that game. And with Rudy playing that advantage doesn't exist. No way the Clippers would have won game 3. Jazz shot 52% from the field and 41% from 3 and lost 111-106 because they couldn't stop LA in the paint without Rudy. Worst case Jazz would have won 4-1. More likely it would have been a sweep.
 
I'm not a fan of Ferguson at all. He's one of the few prospects I want the Jazz to avoid in the first round. He didn't shoot the ball well with Adelaide or in high school. He relies heavily on three pointers on offense and he shot 31.3% from three with Adelaide. He doesn't get to the free throw line. His turnovers outnumber his assists. His defense is uninspiring. He's really skinny at the moment. His mix tapes are flashy and he might be in some dunk contests but his game at this point has no substance. He's a REALLY raw prospect. I don't see a single NBA level skill in his game. It's not to say he can't develop, but in a draft this deep with talent I would avoid him in the first round. I'd be hesitant taking him at 42.

In his DX scouting vid a graphic showed he shot 39% from distance. Not sure where you're getting your numbers
 
If the Jazz are able to move up to 12 (assuming they want to), don't count on Donovan Mitchell being there. He's starting to get looks in the top 10. Frank or Zach would be there at 12 most likely.
 
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