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Following potential 2017 draftees...

The Thriller said:
I'd like to see dead wood like Burks and Lyles traded. I don't care what we get in return. But it seems like all parties would be best served with trades.

Lyles especially. His demeanor was worse than Kanter's or Exum's. Kanter had terrible body languages but still managed to play hard (albeit it was selfishly). Exum up until the last game of the playoffs seemed to lack confidence. But Lyles just flat out doesn't seem to care. It wouldn't surprise me if he were busted for weed this offseason.
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I think a lot of people are hesitant to give up on Lyles and his potential for potential. I'd actually like to use him as sweetener for someone to take Burks. Make us a bit more lean.

Would love a Burks/Lyles for Faried deal.
 
It's not even about Bolomboy. DL picked Lyles over Booker because he wanted a stretch 4 and he though shooters like Booker are available every year while stretch 4 like Lyles (who shot 13% from college 3's) "don't grow on trees". Then look at this year's Leaf, Kuzma, Lydon, Wilson, Collins, Ojeleye, Rabb, Bolden... All legitimate stretch 4 prospects, better shooters, and available well outside of the lottery. Can't believe we just burned a lottery pick on a guy who's so easily replaceable.
 
prodigy said:
I know people in todays nba are looking for bigs that can stretch that floor that said I would be disappointed if the jazz drafted Lydon.

besides being a good shooter, he seems bad everywhere else. so he's going to have become a elite shooter, if he isn't what can he really provide at the next level.
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I could see him being Ryan Anderson.

But you're right, I wouldn't expect much defense or rebounding out of him. Syracuse doesn't team man to man defense since they play so much 2-3 zone.
 
Lyles doesn't really do anything at an elite level. You gotta at least be good at something to play in the NBA
 
infection said:
I think a lot of people are hesitant to give up on Lyles and his potential for potential. I'd actually like to use him as sweetener for someone to take Burks. Make us a bit more lean.

Would love a Burks/Lyles for Faried deal.
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Fine with me.

I'd just love to clear some of this dead wood.

I'd also look to shop Hood around.

Hood + 24 to get us someone like Fox would be awesome. I get that it would probably cost more to get that deal done. But I'm not sold on Hood yet. And I'd like to see us try to break into the lottery to bring us some serious athleticism and/or shooting. Hayward needs someone else who can consistently score.

Too bad McCollum is with porty or Booker is with Phx. Both would be perfect at the 2 alongside Hayward.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
I agree with this also. I think he has potential to start next to gobert also
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Bell has that intangible factor. I think the worst case scenario is he becomes Tristan thompson. A great energy/rebounder/defender who could come off our bench. At best? He could develop a perimeter game and carve out an ice career like millsap. People forget, millsap was strictly an energy player when he came out. His perimeter skills were pretty limited his rookie year. He developed into the stretch 4 that he is today.

To me, Bell has that "fire" that could potentially carry him places.

I would love to take him at 30. 24 is probably still a little early to roll the dice on him though...
 
The Thriller said:
Fine with me.

I'd just love to clear some of this dead wood.

I'd also look to shop Hood around.

Hood + 24 to get us someone like Fox would be awesome. I get that it would probably cost more to get that deal done. But I'm not sold on Hood yet. And I'd like to see us try to break into the lottery to bring us some serious athleticism and/or shooting. Hayward needs someone else who can consistently score.

Too bad McCollum is with porty or Booker is with Phx. Both would be perfect at the 2 alongside Hayward.
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Luke Kennard would be my trade up target.


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Vezenkov said he will enter the draft(I think he has no choice) and he hopes if someone drafts him will let him develop in Europe and follow his development for a while.
 
I'd be happy with Jordan Bell at 24, 30 or 42. He's one of the best defensive players in this draft. Maybe the best. He has a high motor and he's an explosive athlete. If he reaches his potential I can see him being on all nba defensive teams in the future. Maybe in the running for DPOY's. The only question is can he develop more skills offensively so he's not limited to just dunks and hustle points.
 
SCS said:
I'd be happy with Jordan Bell at 24, 30 or 42. He's one of the best defensive players in this draft. Maybe the best. He has a high motor and he's an explosive athlete. If he reaches his potential I can see him being on all nba defensive teams in the future. Maybe in the running for DPOY's. The only question is can he develop more skills offensively so he's not limited to just dunks and hustle points.
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There are a lot more questions than that, but sure.
 
My trade target would be the orlando magic. The magic roster is a mess and they need to rebuild some to make it better.

Evan Fournier is the main target as he plays the 2 not an awful 3 point shooter and has 4 years left on his contract. He is also very good friends with gobert and that is always important to keep gobert happy.

Mario Hezonja was a disappointment to the magic and I was thinking a lyles for Hezonja swap might be good for both teams and players.

Hood, burks and a future first in the trade for fournier would probably be what the magic would want.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
My trade target would be the orlando magic. The magic roster is a mess and they need to rebuild some to make it better.

Evan Fournier is the main target as he plays the 2 not an awful 3 point shooter and has 4 years left on his contract. He is also very good friends with gobert and that is always important to keep gobert happy.

Mario Hezonja was a disappointment to the magic and I was thinking a lyles for Hezonja swap might be good for both teams and players.

Hood, burks and a future first in the trade for fournier would probably be what the magic would want.
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Just for Fournier? Not Fournier + their current first or future first?
 
Crocodile Dante said:
My trade target would be the orlando magic. The magic roster is a mess and they need to rebuild some to make it better.

Evan Fournier is the main target as he plays the 2 not an awful 3 point shooter and has 4 years left on his contract. He is also very good friends with gobert and that is always important to keep gobert happy.

Mario Hezonja was a disappointment to the magic and I was thinking a lyles for Hezonja swap might be good for both teams and players.

Hood, burks and a future first in the trade for fournier would probably be what the magic would want.
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I don't think getting Fournier to appease Gobert is necessary. In fact, friends bring together could be a bad thing.

That said, I would likely do this trade. I'm not sure if the Magic would and I'm not sure if it works under the CBA but 17M per for Fournier is very fair and wouldn't outright kill us and it would be nice to have that spot locked up long-term.

How is he on defense though? How is his handle, ability to penetrate, etc.?
 
White Chocolate said:
Luke Kennard would be my trade up target.


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I'm curious what people see Kennard as?

His measureables both physical and statistical are somewhat comparable to Klay Thompson's (although Klay has a longer wingspan). Kennard actually has fairly shot arms for his size. I don't know about his athleticism, they apparently didn't measure that at his combine.
 
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