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Of GF poker.

It's really the end this time. I am going to Las Vegas next weekend to sell my chip collection back to the seller I bought them from in 2006. The price has gone up considerably and despite selling them with enough room for him to make money I am getting approx 2.5X what I originally paid.

https://www.apachepokerchips.com/sell-your-chips/

I highly doubt anyone here has any interest in purchasing the set but just in case please see my listing on KSL https://www.ksl.com/classifieds/listing/44572864

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I will be selling my tables soon as well.

It has been fun and I have met some amazing people hosting poker games. I'm sure in many ways I will regret selling my poker stuff.
 
Sweet set. I gave up poker a while ago. It's a fun hobby but not great for my nerves and mental well-being when I got serious with it.
 
Yeah, I'm wondering that. Does a rare bird **** these out or what? I can't imagine they'd be made out of a material worth this much.
They are basically a collectable now. But Paulson chips cost about $1.25/chip when they were being manufactured. So now that they aren't the price for new chips (which are pretty much unavailable) is $3/chip. Gently used is close to that.

I get that almost no one would pay that, but some people do.

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They are basically a collectable now.

Ah, so they're not for playing. I was about to say, I'd hate to pay 5 grand for chips when at least 5% of them would end up behind the couch, between the cushions, or stashed in the water dish by my girl cat.
 
Ah, so they're not for playing. I was about to say, I'd hate to pay 5 grand for chips when at least 5% of them would end up behind the couch, between the cushions, or stashed in the water dish by my girl cat.
Going to assume people who buys these are really rich dudes who have big poker games with other really rich dudes.

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Lot's of reasons. First, because the chips are worth more now than when I bought them. I bought them for $0.93/per during the pre-sale before they were manufactured. I was active in the thread on chiptalk.net when the design was being discussed and finalized.

But really, when I was looking to buy a set of high end chips I wanted ASM chips.

If you're interested in the journey, start here... https://forums.homepokertourney.com/index.php?topic=3642.0

I just don't use them enough, and I'm not really looking to use them a lot more. I'm not as into poker as I was. Plus, it's a lot of work to host a 20 person poker tournament. Besides that, I've never really been able to get the kind of game going that I want. After more than 10 years of hosting games I'd really like to play at slightly higher stakes but I think most of my potential players want to be at $20 for a buy-in. Typically, if I win a tournament it means I break even based on what I spend to host. That's not anyone's fault, but I'm trying to host a game that I want to play in.

I've also found that I don't enjoy playing poker when I'm also hosting. It got to the point where I'd almost rather host and not play. But how dumb would that be, really? I can't make money from hosting, so why the hell would I host if I didn't want to play? That's pretty much where I'm at. The chips are worth a lot, I can use the money to do a few things I want to do. I'm going to put a deep sink in my garage (brewery) coat the floors, put panels on the drywall, etc. Plus I just bought a used car that I want to do some work to. So I can use the money.

And I'm kind of back where I started. I might get a smaller set of ASM chips that I design myself and that have a custom inlay. That's what I really wanted before I bought the Paulson's.
 
Going to assume people who buys these are really rich dudes who have big poker games with other really rich dudes.

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As dumb as the dream was, since I was younger than 10 I wanted "real" casino chips. I also wanted to own a Monopoly set (it exists) that has solid gold tokens and cost more than $1 million in the 80s. I ended up with the set of real casino chips.

When I was 6 my best friend and I would divide up a set of 100 Bicycle plastic interlocking poker chips, the kind you can buy at the grocery store, and play heads-up 5 card draw.

At 9 I bought my first set of plastic playing cards, KEM Arrows.

When I was 14 I bought my first poker book, "Winning poker for the serious player."

When I was 17 I tried to find out if they'd let a 17 year old watch people play poker in Wendover... they don't.

When I was 19 I rented a room in a hotel and tried to organize a poker game. I had to really search to find a hotel that would rent a room to a 19 year old. It was in Provo. When I got to the hotel they wouldn't let me rent the room because I was checking in with my girlfriend (wife now) and they don't rent rooms to unmarried couples. Poker game cancelled.

When I was 23 I joined the U.S. Navy. On my first deployment, in 2003, I suggested we play poker. My LPO (Leading Petty Officer) grew up in Reno in an LDS family who dealt table games in the casinos. He was against gambling and shut it down.

On my second deployment I was the work center supervisor and that LPO had been transferred. I started hosting poker games 6 nights a week while underway. We started a league and played 82 regular season league games during our deployment ($10 buy-in, $9 to the prize pool, $1 to the championship game prize pool). I finished first in the league and second in the final game. The total prize pool for the championship game was over 1000.

When I left the Navy I bought the chips I'm selling now.

I built two poker tables.

I joined the Salt Lake City Poker Meetup Group.

I was in the first poker league that was part of the SLCPMG, I finished 4th in the regular season and took 4th in the championship game.

I hosted games as part of the SLCPMG. Lot's of really good players in that group. Felt like I was paying twice, offering a top-notch setting, paying my buy-in and getting beat constantly.

I started hosting games for jazzfanz.com posters. Awesome games. Awesome people. I won my fair share of games.

I became unemployed for an extended period of time. Couldn't really play or host very often.

I got employed. Tried to pick things back up, but there was much less enthusiasm. Poker was going out of style again, just like it was through most of the 90s. Had to really scramble and scrape to get a full game. Nobody wanted to play for anything more than pocket change. They wanted the high roller experience for $20. I got bored. I got tired of subsidizing a top-tier poker experience for people who complained about it costing more than $20.

My boss expressed his interest in hosting a poker league. I thought he meant he would be a 50/50 partner in organizing the league. He wasn't. I did 90% of the work. He did not have the commitment to running a quality league I expected. On our final game, because he had other plans, he changed the blind schedule without saying anything to any of us about it. I laid a pretty satisfying bluff on him to take most of his chips and then nailed him the next hand with solid cards and knocked him out. I tried to organize another poker league without him but he thought he was still a co-host and there was no way I was going to put my reputation into another league he was part of, so I bowed out. League didn't happen.

Life goes on. I was no longer interested in hosting poker games.

Selling my chips next weekend.

Might get a custom set of ASMs and host the occasional cash game. Done with poker tournaments. Done with tiny stakes. If I can't host a grown-up level game then I don't want to host. Most people who want the $20 buy-in wouldn't turn their car around if a $20 bill flew out their window, yet they can't put $40 on a game they claim to want to play. I'm done with that. Love many of those people. But they can host a poker game for $20 if that's what they want. I won't play in it because they'll be playing on a surface that doesn't work, with chips that won't stack 10 high with out falling over, with paper cards that have wear that can be used to tell what cards are what from the back-side. But if they want a $20 game they should have fun with their $20 game.

I'll enjoy my $5000 I get from selling my chips and other gear. I could host games every week for the next 5 years and I wouldn't win $5000. Not even if I won every game. Not even if I didn't count the cost of hosting.

Easy decision.
 
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Nothing wrong with with playing a 20$ buy in with bicycle chips and having 5g to boot. I mean it's not like we don't live right next door to Nevada. Good decision.
 
But speaking of my new car. It's a 2004 Volvo S60 R AWD. Inline 2.5l 5 cylinder high pressure turbo engine producing 300hp with 90k miles.

I'm really excited about it, but there is some work that needs to be done. Most urgent is the suspension. Buying OEM but not genuine Volvo parts it's gonna cost about $1500 to replace the front struts along with the mount bearing and related parts and the rear shocks. They are electronically controlled. And the price is just for parts. I'm going to do the work.

Anyway, this is not a pic of my car but same color and model year.
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Nice car. My boss swears by Volvo. He had owned 6 of them over the years. He drives a newer one now that rides really smooth. Nice luxury. I like it.
 
I'm probably one of those guys who didn't want to play for a lot of money. To start, I have no problem with anything said. But then again, if $20 flew out of my car, I would absolutely turn around for it. Also, I wouldn't have a problem playing every once in a while for higher stakes, but I absolutely have no interest in doing a league where the buy-in was $50+ every time.
It's great that you'll make money on your set up. Good for you. It all comes down to get the most enjoyment out of your money. If something isn't fun anymore, move on.
 
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