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If the Jazz lose Hayward I'm done with the NBA.

Wrong. The polls predicted both the winner and the national vote count.

The polls all agreed that Clinton was the likely winner. Some had her at 99%, but all had her above 90, except Silver, who was called out for it.

No need for revisionist history. It happened very recently. We can all still remember.
 
The polls all agreed that Clinton was the likely winner. Some had her at 99%, but all had her above 90, except Silver, who was called out for it.

No need for revisionist history. It happened very recently. We can all still remember.

So what are you saying then? That since Trump won, all the polls should have had him winning?

Is it possible, just possible, that Trump was an extreme long shot and the polls reflected that? That if you ran the election under the same circumstance 10 more time, Hillary would win all 10?
 
So what are you saying then? That since Trump won, all the polls should have had him winning?

Is it possible, just possible, that Trump was an extreme long shot and the polls reflected that? That if you ran the election under the same circumstance 10 more time, Hillary would win all 10?

My point is that if ALL the polls had Clinton as the nearly-certain winner, then there must have been problem with how the polls were conducted. I read some analysis about where biases could have been introduced (like using landlines instead of cell phones). But is is disingenuous to say that the polls were correct because they gave the winner higher than 0% chance of winning. In that case, every poll ever conducted had been correct!
 
So what are you saying then? That since Trump won, all the polls should have had him winning?

Is it possible, just possible, that Trump was an extreme long shot and the polls reflected that? That if you ran the election under the same circumstance 10 more time, Hillary would win all 10?
Are you serious? You think that the election results were due to some crazy fluke that would almost never happen again even under the exact same circumstances? It seems to me that if the circumstances were the same that there is a very high likelihood that the vote would be the same. Why do you put so much more stock in what the polling predicted than in what the actual vote concluded? The poor polling is leading you to a very flawed conclusion.
 
The problem with the polls is that people were ashamed and embarrassed to admit that they would vote for trump and so they lied. That made the polls inaccurate.

Kind of like on jazzfanz. There might have been one person on all off jazzfanz who admitted that they would vote for trump before the election. Yet trump won the utah vote easily.
 
My point is that if ALL the polls had Clinton as the nearly-certain winner, then there must have been problem with how the polls were conducted.

Every bookmaker had the Warriors as favourites last June. I'm going to assume that most of them didn't even offer odds on Cavs winning once they were down 3-1. Does that mean that it was all flawed? That everyone was an idiot? That there was some way to see that the Cavs were obviously going to win, if only they had used the correct methodology?
 
Are you serious? You think that the election results were due to some crazy fluke that would almost never happen again even under the exact same circumstances?

No man, people lose the popular vote by more than 2% and win the election all the time. That's not a statistically unlikely occurrence at all.
 
No man, people lose the popular vote by more than 2% and win the election all the time. That's not a statistically unlikely occurrence at all.

That's irrelevant. The popular vote isn't a meaningful metric. The polls were predicting the electoral result. And they didn't.
 
No man, people lose the popular vote by more than 2% and win the election all the time. That's not a statistically unlikely occurrence at all.
Winning the popular vote is as relevant to winning the election as winning the rebound battle is to winning a basketball game.
 
I don't give a **** about thread integrity. And you're the only one being a dumbass in here. Barging in like you're better than everyone... LMAO.

If Hayward leaves, at least there will be a silver lining in that wanna-be fans like you will disappear from the board for a few years.

Thank you for giving me something to look forward to, no matter what happens.:cool:
 
Easy way to break up super teams:

No max contracts. Let players sign. Let's see what Durant does when he has to stay with GS for a 30 million dollar pay cut.
 
If Hayward leaves, at least there will be a silver lining in that wanna-be fans like you will disappear from the board for a few years.

Thank you for giving me something to look forward to, no matter what happens.:cool:

Didn't mean for the spanking to be this severe. Wish you well on your butt hurt.
 
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Good lord.
 
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Good lord.


Is that supposed to be a reference to the Celtics?

I can understand the sentiment in the thread title. You draft a guy, go through a multi-year re-build, build your team around the player, help him develop into an All Star, and just when the team is making strides, starting to win in the playoffs, etc., the guy decides he wants to leave. It's his right though. Chris Paul bolted for LA, Carmello for NY, Dwight for the Lakers, etc. It just makes it sweet when these players fail on their big-market teams.
 
Not me. In a sense it will be amazing to watch what Lindsey and Quin have as a contingency plan. I guarantee it will be great and you'll be sorry you ever left the Jazz.

And you better not come back because then you'll be a liar.
 
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