Not true. Perhaps 70% of his friends or 70% of people he talks to about it.
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Not true. Perhaps 70% of his friends or 70% of people he talks to about it.
More bad form.
Monarchy: The original small government. Let's go back to that.
Archie Moses
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I have limited experience in Texas so I don't doubt you. That said, I stayed at the hotel/convention center where they had the Mohammed drawing contest a few years back. Everyone who talked about it made it seem like you don't mess with Texans cause they all have guns on them.
Proportionally there are a lot more but they aren't very significant figures, in my estimation. I'm just throwing this out as an example and not necessarily what I think the numbers are, but presume nationally 2.5% of people keep a loaded gun in their car (probably way lower than that) but in Texas 10% of people keep a loaded gun in their car (much higher than what my estimation would be). From one angle it's four times the national average. From another angle they're both fairly low numbers.
How confident can we be in those reported numbers? Anyone worth their **** knows, and wants to keep it concealed.
I tend to agree with Harambe. I think that those carrying or with one in their car are under reported intentionally. Many people lie about it as they want to remain completely off radar.
Sickening that this is the norm now.
You are so far off your rocker that you take a gun and attack people.
Sick of this. We are lucky no one was killed.
You are so far off your rocker that you take a gun and attack people.
Sick of this. We are lucky no one was killed.
You know why hunters always wave to each other? Because everyone has a gun.
Going back to the estimates of people carrying loaded guns in cars, there are 937,419 active CHL holders in Texas. Now, I know we passed open carry recently but I don't pay a lot of attention to gun laws and what that means (don't know if having a loaded gun in your car falls under open carry -- and really, forgive my ignorance but perhaps concealed carry only applies to your person and isn't necessary for a vehicle -- I have no idea so somebody will have to speak to that), but there are 27.5 million people in Texas. That would mean that if everyone with a concealed carry license in Texas was packing a loaded firearm in their car, it would be 3.4% of the population.
Then you have to consider those that carry a weapon in their car but do not have a CC.
So while I agree with you on the whole 70% thing I also think these numbers are a little low.
Miggs
Well-Known Member
You think more than 70% carry?
Maybe it under represents -- I have no idea. But you'd have to say, if you presume half of all CC holders keep a loaded gun in their car (a number probably much higher than it really is, in my estimation) then that's less than 2%. Then you'd have to ask of all the gun enthusiasts who would carry a loaded gun in their car, how many of them don't have a CC? I'd venture to guess that number is relatively low (I'd be surprised if >50% of people carrying a loaded handgun in their car didn't have a CC license).
I wouldn't be so certain. "Loaded" means a bullet chambered. Plenty of people pack and do not chamber a bullet. There also plenty people who open carry in protest and refuse to obtain a cc permit.
It's legal to carry a loaded firearm in Utah without a cc permit. I bet we are the exception to the rule.
"76-10-505. Carrying loaded firearm in vehicle or on street.
(1) Unless otherwise authorized by law, a person may not carry a loaded firearm:
(a) in or on a vehicle, unless:
(i) the vehicle is in the person's lawful possession; or
(ii) the person is carrying the loaded firearm in a vehicle with the consent of the person lawfully in possession of the vehicle;
(b) on a public street; or
(c) in a posted prohibited area.
(2) Subsection (1)(a) does not apply to a minor under 18 years of age, since a minor under 18 years of age may not carry a loaded firearm in or on a vehicle.
(3) Notwithstanding Subsection (1)(a)(i) and (ii), a person may not possess a loaded rifle, shotgun, or muzzle-loading rifle in a vehicle.
(4) A violation of this section is a class B misdemeanor."
DutchJazzer
Banned
well it seems like it's open season on conservatives!
it is always the socialist who start hunting the religious.
from hitler to mao.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...a-great-again-flag-in-indiana/article/2626142
it is always the socialist who start hunting the religious.
from hitler to mao.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...a-great-again-flag-in-indiana/article/2626142
And the game was played . . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-tees-off-baseball-game-one-day-after-shooting/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17&yptr=yahoo
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-tees-off-baseball-game-one-day-after-shooting/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17&yptr=yahoo
DutchJazzer
Banned
yeah socialist peasants are incompetent with guns!
that's why lefties think you cant fight the government with guns!
but still usa having torouble winning wars in the middeleast and even as far back as vietnam
DutchJazzer
Banned
original small government.
like for example British empire the monarchy!
seems small enough in the jpg below
from that big monarch government, sprung the first successful liberty republic movement!
now they wanna go global again with the UN, NATO and other globalist ********!
no monarch is big government as you can GET!
so please mister.
from that big government people started fighting against being taxed. against big government rule. the liberty movement did not start there. but it was succesfull opposing a big government monarchy!