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jom2003 said:
I thought Billy King was fired? Why is the management still so bad at Brooklyn... Lopez is a former all star still very much in his prime... I wouldn't even do Lopez for Russel straight up. Let alone taking on Mozgov's disastrous contract. While giving up another first round pick on top of that? Simply a bad trade all around...
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Lopez is in his late 20's. The Nets know that their rebuild will be another 3 years minimum. They don't start to get their first round picks again until 2019. By then Lopez will be in his early 30's while the rest of their key players will be in their early 20's. He just doesn't fit their window. The timeframe they are looking at. Mosgov's contract doesn't hurt them. By the time they get their picks back Mosgov's contract will be set to expire.

They got a young and talented former top 5 pick in exchange for taking a contract that won't hinder them at all, a good player who just didn't fit long-term and the #27 pick. Great trade for them.
 
The wildest **** about Lydon is that in his Freshman year in the tourney he had 3 straights games of 6,6, and 5 blocks.
 
JustTheTip said:
Eh. He's a good shooter, an ok passer, meh rebounder, ok at defending the rim but also lacks defensive awareness. He's not aggressive, and doesn't play to his talent. He's fine at the end of the 1st, but I don't love him. I never liked Lyles during the draft, and I like Lylesmore than Alyson.
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I get that for sure. For me I see it differently... take a guy like Jimmer who is used to getting up a ton of shots... in the NBA he can't adjust to a role. I could see Lydon being just as effective in his role in the NBA as he was at Syracuse. I don't see it as not being aggressive... I think he stays in his lane... honestly chucker Lyles could use a little of that.

He's got a clear skill to hang his hat on...
He's got good positional length...
He's got adequate athleticism...
If he gets in really good shape and works on his body it opens up a lot of things for him.

With all of these guys you have to squint a little and look past some stuff... I like him much more than some of the guys in that range and I'd absolutely gamble on him.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Or he is just a player who doesnt work hard enough to get on the court.
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And he dunks all over the G League... he's a second round pick... Let's give Homey something good to watch.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The wildest **** about Lydon is that in his Freshman year in the tourney he had 3 straights games of 6,6, and 5 blocks.
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He's long.. you can see it on some of his more athletic plays.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
And he dunks all over the G League... he's a second round pick... Let's give Homey something good to watch.
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There are a lot of guys worthy of 2nd round picks. I think you should draft someone who is committed to working. It's not like the 2nd round prospects this year are thin.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I get that for sure. For me I see it differently... take a guy like Jimmer who is used to getting up a ton of shots... in the NBA he can't adjust to a role. I could see Lydon being just as effective in his role in the NBA as he was at Syracuse. I don't see it as not being aggressive... I think he stays in his lane... honestly chucker Lyles could use a little of that.

He's got a clear skill to hang his hat on...
He's got good positional length...
He's got adequate athleticism...
If he gets in really good shape and works on his body it opens up a lot of things for him.

With all of these guys you have to squint a little and look past some stuff... I like him much more than some of the guys in that range and I'd absolutely gamble on him.
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How do you know he has adequate athletic ability? He always played zone in college.
 
https://theringer.com/2017-nba-draft-two-biggest-sleepers-4f4639d1ec4d

Williams is a traditional coach who likes to play two big men and pound the ball inside in the half court, and Bradley spent about half of his time this season playing with either Kennedy Meeks or Isaiah Hicks, neither of whom is much of a shooter. When he played with either Luke Maye (a stretch 4) or Justin Jackson (a small-ball 4) spreading the floor next to him, the Tar Heels were dominant. According to the numbers at hooplens.com, in the 517 possessions that Bradley played without either Hicks or Meeks on the floor, UNC’s offensive rating jumped from 1.15 to 1.19 points per possession while its defensive rating dropped from 0.99 points per possession allowed to 0.93. In the NBA, Bradley will spend a lot more time as the only big man in the game.
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SCS said:
I actually like Tony Bradley a little bit. He's #28 on my board. He's raw but I like his size, length, mobility, motor. He rebounds the ball well, especially on the offensive glass. The Jazz saying he shot it well in his workout intrigues me too. He only shot like 3 jumpshots all year but he does look like he has a soft touch. He's also shown flashes of being a good passer.
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Yeah, in his workout videos his shot looked solid. Compact simple mechanics with a nice release point. He is definitely someone I have warmed up to the past 24 hours, which probably means we wont draft him. I'm convinced whoever I go into the draft hating, we will get. Which will probably be Isaiah Hartenstein.
 
Zero interest in Bradley. How manu UNC bigs have come out over the past 10-15 years like this that amount to ****?
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Zero interest in Bradley. How manu UNC bigs have come out over the past 10-15 years like this that amount to ****?
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What does the past 10-15 years of UNC bigs have to do with Bradley though? He's not going to be drafted because of where he went to school. He's going to be drafted on potential and upside.
 
SCS said:
What does the past 10-15 years of UNC bigs have to do with Bradley though? He's not going to be drafted because of where he went to school. He's going to be drafted on potential and upside.
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I never got that argument. Most of the UNC bigs who have been drafted have carved out backup roles for themselves and are respected. True there havent been any stars to come among that position (or really UNC in general), but they produce NBA players. The only guy who was really straight trash was Sean May.

Roy purposefully recruits guys who project to stay in college long-term, so that's probably a big reason why he is unimpressed with their recent track record of NBA talent.
 
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