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I wonder if the Jazz squad plans to stay at Hayward's until 8:00 PM PST, and spend 6-8 watching the Jazz summer league game against the Spurs. Only a couple hours until then and I'm sure they'd like to take the opportunity to watch Exum, Mitchell, Bolomby, etc all together.
 
I'd rather keep both for now and let the chips fall where they may. How many draft picks do you think it takes for them to take Burks instead?

I don't think that's realistic. I also don't know exact rules about salary matching.
 
I don't think that's realistic. I also don't know exact rules about salary matching.

Favors, Burks for Love for Melo fits just fine for all 3 teams. Take out Burks and substitute Exum and Diaw and you get the same result. Jazz have their 2018, 2019, and 2020 first round picks they could throw in there, plus a crap load of 2nd round picks in the next 3 years.
 
If we have a sniff of a chance at Love and don't have to include Hood (and obvious candidates) WE TAKE IT

Maybe. Rubio is going to get paid in two years. I still think the Jazz are counting on Exum to continue development and take over for Rubio at that point. Not sure how much Mitchell changes that equation - guess we'll see.
 
Even if Hood is at the meeting, I don't think Hayward would be pissed/offended if the Jazz traded him. He's smart enough to know you can't pass up on acquiring a 4x all-star, 2x All-NBA player with a ring. Hayward wants to win...Love would make this Jazz team the 2nd best team in the entire NBA.
 
Even if Hood is at the meeting, I don't think Hayward would be pissed/offended if the Jazz traded him. He's smart enough to know you can't pass up on acquiring a 4x all-star, 2x All-NBA player with a ring. Hayward wants to win...Love would make this Jazz team the 2nd best team in the entire NBA.
I don't think it has so much to do with Hayward being mad about it as much as the fact that it would be a douche thing to do to Hood. Jazz front office just doesn't treat people that way. They could be crapping all over Hill right now, but they've been nothing but respectful.
 
Favors, Burks for Love for Melo fits just fine for all 3 teams. Take out Burks and substitute Exum and Diaw and you get the same result. Jazz have their 2018, 2019, and 2020 first round picks they could throw in there, plus a crap load of 2nd round picks in the next 3 years.

It doesn't fit NYK to lose Melo for negative-value Burks and semi-dead Favors. Maybe if they rehab their value, but not atm.
 
Even if Hood is at the meeting, I don't think Hayward would be pissed/offended if the Jazz traded him. He's smart enough to know you can't pass up on acquiring a 4x all-star, 2x All-NBA player with a ring. Hayward wants to win...Love would make this Jazz team the 2nd best team in the entire NBA.

I agree. I also just don't know, with GSW being what they are, if it's smart to mortgage our developing (cheaper) assets - and their potential future impact - for a guy who will be looking for a new contract at exactly the same time as the point guard you just traded for, while you've got two max level salaries tied up with your small forward and center. If he can pull it off for Favors, Burks, and a pick, that makes a lot of sense. If they want Exum or Hood, we're starting to get into uncomfortable territory for the Jazz's ability to slide in to championship contention once the Warriors begin to decline.
 
I agree. I also just don't know, with GSW being what they are, if it's smart to mortgage our developing (cheaper) assets - and their potential future impact - for a guy who will be looking for a new contract at exactly the same time as the point guard you just traded for, while you've got two max level salaries tied up with your small forward and center. If he can pull it off for Favors, Burks, and a pick, that makes a lot of sense. If they want Exum or Hood, we're starting to get into uncomfortable territory for the Jazz's ability to slide in to championship contention once the Warriors begin to decline.

You make the best move you have now. You don't worry about what will happen in 5 years. What if another super team emerges? Wait another 5?

Love added to the team would make us competitive with GSW, IMO. They're still better, but who knows what could happen!
 
It doesn't fit NYK to lose Melo for negative-value Burks and semi-dead Favors. Maybe if they rehab their value, but not atm.

Talks don't even start without AT LEAST one of Exum/Hood and a 1st rounder or horde of 2nds (which the Jazz have!). But the Jazz have to send at least a couple of things to build with.

Does Cleveland have any dead salary they'd want to move?
 
Talks don't even start without AT LEAST one of Exum/Hood and a 1st rounder or horde of 2nds (which the Jazz have!). But the Jazz have to send at least a couple of things to build with.

Does Cleveland have any dead salary they'd want to move?

The word is they're looking to move Shumpert.
 
This kinda sux if true cuz Boston will surely outbid us to get love

They are also soft as **** at the rim and Love wouldn't move the needle much offensively since they already have plenty of spacing. In short, he'd be redundant there and his weaknesses wouldn't get masked.
 
I just don't buy that the Warriors will be this unstoppable force for the next 3-4 years. It just never seems to work out that way. Every time a super team comes along everything starts to think "OMG they'll dominate for the next 5 years, NO ONE WILL STOP THEM!" Then reality sets in and they come back to earth. Look at the '01 Lakers. Go 15-1 in the postseason and the very next year are lucky to be back in the finals (Kings screwed). 2012 Heat have an incredible season (this was the 28 game winning streak right?) and pretty dominant post season. What happens next year? They need an all-time great shot out of Ray Allen to even force game 7 in the Finals.

I personally believe this GSW team could be the best we've ever seen, but I'm not ready to crown them for the next 4 seasons like the rest of the NBA world.
 
It doesn't fit NYK to lose Melo for negative-value Burks and semi-dead Favors. Maybe if they rehab their value, but not atm.

Trey Lyles was traded for an 11 pick jump in a strong draft. Jimmy Butler was traded for Kris Dunn (nothing but potential), Zach Lavine (nothing but potential and coming off an ACL tear) and a pick swap in a strong draft. Paul George (acknowledged to be a rental) was traded for Victor Oladipo's bad contract and Domantas Sabonis (the 11th pick in a bad draft).

Value is a strange thing in the NBA. Jeff Hornacek and the Knicks could very much value Favors far more than you think. There were rumors that a number of teams were interested in him. Burks seems like a net negative, but he's still only 25 years old and on a nice contract if he rebounds from his injuries. Who knows what a change of scenery does for him. I'm not saying that it's likely, but it's far from impossible. Especially if the Knicks value draft picks and want to build around Porzingis.
 
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