What's new
By:

STAYWARD

Flc said:
I agree. I also just don't know, with GSW being what they are, if it's smart to mortgage our developing (cheaper) assets - and their potential future impact - for a guy who will be looking for a new contract at exactly the same time as the point guard you just traded for, while you've got two max level salaries tied up with your small forward and center. If he can pull it off for Favors, Burks, and a pick, that makes a lot of sense. If they want Exum or Hood, we're starting to get into uncomfortable territory for the Jazz's ability to slide in to championship contention once the Warriors begin to decline.
Click to expand...
I agree with the idea that the Jazz can only pay one of Favors, Hood or Exum if Hayward comes back. If that's the case, then you consolidate two for one star player and hope it breaks in your favor and you kept the right one.
 
NUMBERICA said:
They are also soft as **** at the rim and Love wouldn't move the needle much offensively since they already have plenty of spacing. In short, he'd be redundant there and his weaknesses wouldn't get masked.
Click to expand...

Poor rebounding team picks up a great rebounder who happens to be an All star. Are you really trying to say that Love would not be a huge upgrade over Olynyk? Are you serious?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Talks don't even start without AT LEAST one of Exum/Hood and a 1st rounder or horde of 2nds (which the Jazz have!). But the Jazz have to send at least a couple of things to build with.

Does Cleveland have any dead salary they'd want to move?
Click to expand...

Why? CLE and NY aren't exactly in great positions here. Melo is about as distressed as an asset can get. There's no GM and a disgruntled LeBron in CLE. Every single day that we get closer to training camp, their positions worsen. Now, we may get outbid, but I think the market is softer than most realize. A couple of first-round picks and two very talented rehabilitation projects isn't nothing.
 
♪alt13 said:
Poor rebounding team picks up a great rebounder who happens to be an All star. Are you really trying to say that Love would not be a huge upgrade over Olynyk? Are you serious?
Click to expand...

I'm saying in comparison to a lot of other places Love could go (teams with more room for improvement, an actual PG, more possessions for Love, less spacing), Love won't improve Boston as much.

I feel like Boston would be picking up Cleveland Kevin Love. I feel like the Jazz would be picking up something more like the Minnesota Kevin Love.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm saying in comparison to a lot of other places Love could go (teams with more room for improvement, an actual PG, more possessions for Love, less spacing), Love won't improve Boston as much.

I feel like Boston would be picking up Cleveland Kevin Love. I feel like the Jazz would be picking up something more like the Minnesota Kevin Love.
Click to expand...

I kinda think Minnesota Kevin Love is dead as long as he plays for a good team. Guy had to do everything with that roster.
 
Thanks for the thread title update, btw. Helps to check quickly while I am grilling.
 
NAOS said:
Why? CLE and NY aren't exactly in great positions here. Melo is about as distressed as an asset can get. There's no GM and a disgruntled LeBron in CLE. Every single day that we get closer to training camp, their positions worsen. Now, we may get outbid, but I think the market is softer than most realize. A couple of first-round picks and two very talented rehabilitation projects isn't nothing.
Click to expand...

Then the Jazz have to consider other bids if nothing else. If they get Love, the assets the Jazz lose become noise in the background. If the difference in landing Kevin Love or not is Rodney Hood, then it's a no-brainer to me. Kevin Love would go light years farther in facilitating an ideal offense.

Of course, I would love to keep Hood. And Exum. But how are the Jazz paying them?
 
Cleveland wants Melo because they believe that pure lack of scoring punch is why they couldn't compete with GS, not because of lack of defense. In the one game they won they did it by outscoring them, not by stopping them. Hence, score more = win more. Hence, Melo, not Favors (or Love).
 
Catchall said:
Carmelo aside, I think the Jazz should offer Favors and Hood for Love straight across.
Click to expand...

I'd offer almost the farm. I'd add Exum plus the pick.

Rubio
Ingles
Hayward
Love
Gobert
Mitchell

All signed for at least 2 seasons giving us a chance to see what we got this year, and improve one more summer.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Cleveland wants Melo because they believe that pure lack of scoring punch is why they couldn't compete with GS, not because of lack of defense. In the one game they won they did it by outscoring them, not by stopping them. Hence, score more = win more. Hence, Melo, not Favors (or Love).
Click to expand...

I'm happy with letting them think Melo fixes the problem against GSW if we poach Love from them.
 
dipship31 said:
I kinda think Minnesota Kevin Love is dead as long as he plays for a good team. Guy had to do everything with that roster.
Click to expand...

Playing next to the best passer in the NBA, the least-selfish and one of the most efficient high-scorers in the NBA, the straight most efficient scorer in the NBA who requires very few possessions, and a bevy of spot up shooters is a far cry from Lebron James and Kyrie Irving trading possessions and Love getting leftovers.

I understand what you're saying, but Love is being dramatically underutilized.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top