STAYWARD

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

If it is a sign and trade then Brown is the guy I want to build around. Boston will have Tatum, Brown, Crowder, Hayward all playing the 3. Very crowded.

Brown in a S&T makes me feel better if Hayward is gone. Crowder is a good player, but Brown gives us a building piece. If it really is a S&T and Boston doesn't want this to lag out to the point that Hayward changes his mind again... who knows.

I noticed another twitter feed almost immediately after the #fakenews broke that said Jaylen Brown is unnecessary for Boston and that they have to renounce Olynyk and half a dozen other players upon signing Hayward.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hayward may have asked them to throw Utah a bone to help him feel less guilty about leaving us high and dry. Only reason to do it because he could get assets for both smart or crowder and they have to move someone of that salary.

That just doesnt make sense to me. Why would Hayward want to go to Boston, then tell that team to weaken their assets to get him when they could just get him by trading away assets and probably getting stuff back to make their team stronger?

The whole reason Hayward would want to go to Boston is because they are a stacked team in a bad conference. Doesnt make sense for him to want to weaken that stack.

I think he is just super indecisive.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If it is a sign and trade then Brown is the guy I want to build around. Boston will have Tatum, Brown, Crowder, Hayward all playing the 3. Very crowded.

Brown in a S&T makes me feel better if Hayward is gone. Crowder is a good player, but Brown gives us a building piece. If it really is a S&T and Boston doesn't want this to lag out to the point that Hayward changes his mind again... who knows.

I noticed another twitter feed almost immediately after the #fakenews broke that said Jaylen Brown is unnecessary for Boston and that they have to renounce Olynyk and half a dozen other players upon signing Hayward.

Just completely forget about Brown. There is no way in hell they are trading him.

 

[Flc]

My take is that what's going on is exactly what's being reported. I think Hayward has gone back and forth between the Celtics and the Jazz, he's feeling confused, he got to a point this afternoon where he said, "Ok, I'm going to go to the Celtics." He went and grabbed a snack, started feeling doubtful, came back and said, "Actually, I'm not sure..." but by then someone around his table and already called ESPN.

Now, in addition to deciding what team to join, he also has to think about controlling the damage from the fallout.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

*If* a sign and trade happens, it would probably be Bradley.

 

[Jazz Traveler]

This whole thing has been handled so poorly. Awful,just awful.

 

[Avery]

Anybody that thinks Boston is giving us a damn thing is out of their mind. They don't have to and won't.

 

[Ron Mexico]

*If* a sign and trade happens, it would probably be Bradley.

If that is the best offer Jazz say no. Their cap room this year is more valuable then a player that will be gone after this year. A sign and trade would be doing Celtics a favor since they need to cut salary. Jazz could ask for something they might want like Crowder or tell them no thanks and try and sign someone like Gallo.

 

[LoPo]

No - Boston loves Bradley. He is proven. Brown is potential. Every Boston fan is okay losing Brown to get Hayward. Just like every Rockets fan was okay losing a 1st and Beverley to get Paul.

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[CALJAZZFAN]

Hayward may have asked them to throw Utah a bone to help him feel less guilty about leaving us high and dry. Only reason to do it because he could get assets for both smart or crowder and they have to move someone of that salary.

This could be it. Plus, he might really want that 5th year and extra $40M plus.

 

[candrew]

Anybody that thinks Boston is giving us a damn thing is out of their mind. They don't have to and won't.

Of course - some Jazz fans are in the "bargaining" stage of grief - that is all.

 

[♪alt13]

I really think something else is going on here. The Jazz are exploring a trade or two that they discussed with Hayward and Hayward can't make his decision until that happens. In the meantime, this drama only serves to put pressure on the Jazz to give up another asset in a trade for whichever player is in play.

I really don't think Hayward is this mentally conflicted. That's just a cover story.

I honestly thought it would take another all star or near all star player to keep Hayward. Rubio is not that. Maybe there was some truth to the Carmelo/love rumors? Perhaps DL is trying to get love.

 

[Siro]

Hayward's agent said that his client "is upset someone reported that, and he's re-evaluating everything".

Sounds to me that the report was legit, and Hayward is simply upset he didn't announce it his way. Hopefully this causes him to change his mind about the Celtics.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz and Celtics are going to discuss a sign-and-trade, it would come after Hayward makes his decision and announcement. A sign-and-trade doesn't hold up Hayward's initial decision. I don't think it's a sign-and-trade that's being discussed. I think there's another trade in the works, and someone is trying to put the Jazz over a barrel.

 

[LoPo]

Boston has to get rid of Smart, Bradley, Brown or Crowder to sign Hayward to a max deal. Its not rocket science guys.

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[stormkoopacv03]

Hayward may have asked them to throw Utah a bone to help him feel less guilty about leaving us high and dry. Only reason to do it because he could get assets for both smart or crowder and they have to move someone of that salary.

If that's how it is, they should give us Tatum then.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Hayward's agent said that his client "is upset someone reported that, and he's re-evaluating everything".

Sounds to me that the report was legit, and Hayward is simply upset he didn't announce it his way. Hopefully this causes him to change his mind about the Celtics.

Yep. As poorly as this has been handled, I still very much want him back. Jazz will live without him, but they're much better with him. Wonder if Rudy and Jingles are working behind the scenes to get him to stay.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That just doesnt make sense to me. Why would Hayward want to go to Boston, then tell that team to weaken their assets to get him when they could just get him by trading away assets and probably getting stuff back to make their team stronger?

The whole reason Hayward would want to go to Boston is because they are a stacked team in a bad conference. Doesnt make sense for him to want to weaken that stack.

I think he is just super indecisive.

Because he's not a pirate like ainge. I just don't understand what is happening and trying to look for logic and reason amongst chaos.

It is likely he just doesn't effing know and maybe committed a bit to Boston... like when people can't say no and he's got cold feet.

I swear if he is just waiting to release a stupid ****ing blog post that almost no one will actually read I will hate him forever.

 

[MT Steve]

Hayward's agent said that his client "is upset someone reported that, and he's re-evaluating everything".

Source on this?

 

[♪alt13]

Hayward's agent said that his client "is upset someone reported that, and he's re-evaluating everything".

Sounds to me that the report was legit, and Hayward is simply upset he didn't announce it his way. Hopefully this causes him to change his mind about the Celtics.

Yeah I hope he only told Ainge.