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If the Jazz get the Number one pick, Kyrie Irving is our man!!

KrazeeEyezKilla said:
We never said current. You did. Only now.
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I don't care who was drafted from where in 1967. I'm trying to keep this side topic at least relevant, not sure how John Havlicek is relevant to who PRODUCES good players when we're talking about an upcoming draft.

Getting back to the point, Duke has produced enough good players in the last 20 years that I don't think we need to be concerned that Irving will be a bust. Of all the things to be concerned with a prospect, singling out the school itself (not the level of competition) is probably the dumbest thing you could be concerned with. Especially since Duke has been pretty damn good in that respect.
 
margodydek said:
Name the last Duke player who was a bonafide superstar in the league. Had Kobe gone there, as he said he would have, then you might have an argument, but while Duke teams do great in the tourney, and they do get players drafted, they (former Duke players) are known to be lukewarm in the league. I don't think this is a knock on Duke at all, I think it's just the players they recruit. They try and recruit more team-oriented players that aren't the super athletic kids with huge egos that want to start right away and will leave after one year.

Having said all that, I would still give one of my reproductive organs to get Irving. Looks like he could be special.
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I think you could say that most schools don't have a bonafide superstar....they're kind of rare. But hell, based on your logic we should try to get more Marquette players because Dwyane Wade is a superstar. Or perhaps more players from Wake Forest because of Chris Paul and Tim Duncan....right? Players are players no matter where they go to school. If all these guys went to Duke they would still be great players. If they all went to the New Jersey Institute of Technology they would still be great players, just not as polished. Oh, and the last superstar from Duke would most likely be Grant Hill. Gerald Henderson has been rapidly improving with playing time though and is athletic enough and a good enough defender that if he ever gets a jump shot that he could be a little below superstar level.

Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care where the kid went to school, if he can ball he can ball.
 
Hantlers said:
I think you could say that most schools don't have a bonafide superstar....they're kind of rare. But hell, based on your logic we should try to get more Marquette players because Dwyane Wade is a superstar. Or perhaps more players from Wake Forest because of Chris Paul and Tim Duncan....right? Players are players no matter where they go to school. If all these guys went to Duke they would still be great players. If they all went to the New Jersey Institute of Technology they would still be great players, just not as polished. Oh, and the last superstar from Duke would most likely be Grant Hill. Gerald Henderson has been rapidly improving with playing time though and is athletic enough and a good enough defender that if he ever gets a jump shot that he could be a little below superstar level.

Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care where the kid went to school, if he can ball he can ball.
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Agree 100%. I was simply arguing against the belief that Duke produces great NBA players. I think where you play is totally irrelevant. I don't really like Duke so I like to give Duke fans and Duke homers a hard time about how their players' struggle with their transition to the NBA - (although having Hurley, JWill, and GHill all get injured in the earlier parts of their careers probably didn't help). I think where someone went to school is completely irrelevant and that is why, even though I hate Duke, I think Irving's going to be great.
 
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