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I don't hate you. I hardly even really "hate" the ideas I oppose or try to discredit or supplant in a discussion.

I considered your PM a sort of announcement that you'd signed up with a George Soros political activism group to deconstruct America. I don't remember it much better than you do.

I welcome a more stable, long-term debate on things in more moderate rhetorical terms.

We've triggered each other at times. Does not have to be that way. To some degree, it's one of the fundamental pitfalls of virtual communication vs. sitting around shooting the breeze in person. In reality, there are lots of people here with passionate opinions. There has never been a moment like this in this nation's history. Passionate positions are to be expected.
 
Why would Trump work with Fox News to create a fake news story about Seth Rich's death to try and distract from the Russian investigation?

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/54078...s-and-trump-supporter-created-fake-news-story

It's really a pisser that one of the fundamental offensive strategies of Trump and his supporters is to label the adversarial press(which in a democracy I should think is preferable to a compliant press, in fulfilling a role as the "watchdog" of democracy) as fake news, and to then use fake news themselves to drive that very narrative. And crafting that alternative universe and "hypnotizing" millions with it, is, at least in my eyes, fundamentally irresponsible to the health of the body politic. I think it's one of the deliberate actions by Trump that I most resent, as one cannot really expect to open people's eyes once these false narratives are implanted, so to speak. It's a chief reason why it will be extremely difficult to reconcile the opposing sides in the conflict plaguing us.

I read somewhere that one pundit asked the question "does it matter that Trump lies?" It got me to thinking.

A recurring strategy is to take the basic facts and infuse them with positive superlatives. Examples here include largest crowd, and greatest speech. Or to take known facts and add fictional elements that cast Trump in a more positive light. An example of this is his claim that the Boy Scout leader told him his speech was the "greatest ever given". The known fact is that he delivered that speech. The Boy Scout leader calling him to praise him is the fictional element. This allows Trump to put the best spin on his standing in any situation or event.

He fictionalizes his life when it will elevate his standing.

This seems like odd behavior, whether it's consciously realized BS in service to the narrative of his life, his narrative in its self stated form, or whether he actually believes it some of the times. Either way, the public, both press and citizens, are presented with either a somewhat fictionalized or a greater fictionalized narrative of his life and actions, and accomplishments.

Somewhat or to a greater degree fictionalized by either exaggerating the facts or by inventing elements that never happened.

There also is often no attention or little attention paid to consistency. The stated facts, whether true or invented, can change day to day.

He is thus able to fictionalize his life on the fly, so to speak.

Who can say whether this is a personality disorder, or a strategy for eluding either "capture" in relation to any investigations, or, in the case of simply casting positive spin, presented in the interests of reinforcing allegiance by his core followers? It may be some of both. A personality disorder and a strategy for maintaining control of his life's narrative and support by his followers.

Following from all this, we should expect he and his allies to be the principle purveyors of the very fake news he and they are so fond of placing as a label on media outlets that do not accept his fictionalized narratives at face value or who are actively trying to undermine those narratives.
 
Trump has a lot in common with Putin. First and most importantly, he puts his country first. I find Putin an interesting study. His KGB gig was as a diplomat in Germany. He speaks German and was very much a Western sort of thinker. If he uses any communist rhetoric at all, it is the lowest kind of ideological common denominator stuff that is hardly different from British socialism, speaking to the common needs of common people. Probably has not read Karl Marx or ever really been a communist.

Putin is about as communist as Trump is conservative, in ideological terms. They are both more practical and concerned with results than ideas.

I think Trump and Putin can get along pretty good. I think Russia is a more important ally than Great Britain.

The United States would be smart to treat Russia and China as allies and leave our sordid little romance with Britain in the closet.....

The British started WWI and WWII so far as I'm concerned, with stupid geopolitical gamesmanship, and are the main backers of militarism and further geopolitical manipulations today that could start another great war.

The worst thing I can say about Hillary or Obama is that they were/are British puppets, as are our major media TrumpDumpsters.

The hate Russia panic should be dumped. The bill should not have been passed. The people in both parties who voted for it are all just unthinking ignoramuses so far as world geopolitics is concerned, and have been duped by British influences along many lines.
Holy. Cow. There is a lot to unpack here. Great Britain is to blame for WW2?!

We should abandon our most special of relationships so we can be closer to Russia?

Trump loves his country?



What???

Also bonus points for a random rant about communism. I don't think many people are accusing Putin of being a communist. A kleptocrat and an oligarch sure.
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Saw it today.

I also saw how in his statement as he signed the sanctions he insulted congress and blamed them for setting relations between us and Russia back.

Unbelievable.

Believable, and factual.

I know the Machiavellian sort of geopolitical manipulations the Brits are famous for get no coverage in our media or Hollywood or classrooms. Leverage is vital to the Brits, it's their only tool, really.

I suggest a couple of old movies for the initiated. "Eagle in a Cage" and Remains of the Day".

In the first the Brit foreign minister is trying to set up Napoleon for another round of military exploits. He went to St. Helena to negotiate the deal. He says he doesn't care how many people get killed, as long as they aren't British. He drops his plan only when Napoleon's Irish Doctor poison Napoleon and Napoleon falls off his horse. . .

The second is Brit Elite apologetics for helping Hitler build his war machine.

I should bot expect to educate Bullet or red or Colton overnight. Maybe someday they'll see the light.
 
G@Zombie

Sure calling the US Congress as a whole ignoramuses and dupes might look like a stretch, but small compared to other allegations I have made.

I don't theorize a singular evil manipulator, but effective multiple actors acting within larger cultural situations where common interests dictate stupidity.
 
Saw it today.

I also saw how in his statement as he signed the sanctions he insulted congress and blamed them for setting relations between us and Russia back.

Unbelievable.

[MENTION=365]The Thriller[/MENTION], in my defense that was reported after my post. When I posted this it was only that he signed it.
 
Holy. Cow. There is a lot to unpack here. Great Britain is to blame for WW2?!

We should abandon our most special of relationships so we can be closer to Russia?

Trump loves his country?



What???

Also bonus points for a random rant about communism. I don't think many people are accusing Putin of being a communist. A kleptocrat and an oligarch sure.
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Over the last six months, Babe has taken over as the undisputed king of tinfoil.

Thriller bro, I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but you're in a distant 2nd place right now.
 
Transcript of the first phone call between T. Rump and the Australian Prime Minister. I feel i should point out that our two countries have been allies politically and strategically since the Second World War, in fact Australians have fought with Americans and at significant conflict since. I find T.Rumps position inexcusable and our Prime Ministers weakness embarrassing.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/full-tr...l-telephone-conversation-20170803-gxp13g.html

Best bit is at the end where our Prime minister grovels to a reality TV star like its his girlfriend. Sickening.
 
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Transcript of the first phone call between T. Rump and the Australian Prime Minister. I feel i should point out that our two countries have been allies politically and strategically since the Second World War, in fact Australians have fought with Americans and at significant conflict since. I find T.Rumps position inexcusable and our Prime Ministers weakness embarrassing.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/full-tr...l-telephone-conversation-20170803-gxp13g.html

Best bit is at the end where our Prime minister grovels to a reality TV star like its his girlfriend. Sickening.

That was actually hard to read. Unbelievable these guys are world leaders. Wow.
 
There's nothing to the Russian thing

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345212-mueller-establishes-grand-jury-in-trump-russia-probe-report

But wait a minute while I deal with whatever this "grand jury" is.

The move means the probe is intensifying and could stretch "for months," according to the newspaper. Impaneling a grand jury suggests Mueller "believes he will need to subpoena records and take testimony from witnesses," the Journal said.

In addition to the Wall Street Journal report that Mueller has impaneled a grand jury, CNN has a very detailed report showing the extent to which Mueller is following the Trump money trail:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/polit...ssia-trump-one-year-financial-ties/index.html

Washington (CNN)Federal investigators exploring whether Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russian spies have seized on Trump and his associates' financial ties to Russia as one of the most fertile avenues for moving their probe forward, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The web of financial ties could offer a more concrete path toward potential prosecution than the broader and murkier questions of collusion in the 2016 campaign, these sources said.

One year after the FBI opened an investigation, the probe is now managed by special counsel Robert Mueller. Sources described an investigation that has widened to focus on possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 elections, alongside the ongoing scrutiny of possible illegal coordination with Russian spy agencies and alleged attempts by President Donald Trump and others to obstruct the FBI investigation. Even investigative leads that have nothing to do with Russia but involve Trump associates are being referred to the special counsel to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate, according to two law enforcement sources."

And more on the grand jury:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/mueller-grand-jury/535875/

The news of a grand jury is perhaps less a surprise than the speed with which it was impaneled. It suggests that Mueller’s team has moved past an exploratory phase. A grand jury hears testimony about potential wrongdoing and decides whether to charge people with crimes. It allows a prosecutor to subpoena documents and to put witnesses under oath for testimony. Mueller has also rapidly expanded his team, hiring a slew of high-profile lawyers, including several with experience in money laundering, organized crime, bribery, and witness-flipping. He recently added Greg Andres, a partner in a prominent white-shoe New York firm, to his group."
 
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