Miggs
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I had asked the question because I just wasn't sure if your statement implied you thought he'd need multiple people to handle the contraption.
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I had asked the question because I just wasn't sure if your statement implied you thought he'd need multiple people to handle the contraption.
Miggs
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Do you know how much the arrow of a compound bow weighs? This easily weighs 5-10x that. I'd guess more like 20x that based on how he was carrying it.
The arrow is large based on it's target. Regular or even double sized arrows wouldn't even slow the dragons down.
Since the arrow is massive extra force is need to propel it at adequate speed and lengths. This requires a large amount of tension. Usually these devices were manned by 2-3 people. One person could do it but not very effectively.
The show was adequate enough. He only got off 2 shots and you could see him struggle to winch it back.
Umm why is the last being deep such a big deal. I have been to lakes that the shore drops after a few feet and is very deep. It's a steep shelf, that happens. Not sure why that's magically, seems very plausible since it exists.
You want a ratio of 5 grain/per pound of draw weight, so not that much.
Miggs
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Yep. And that arrow looked like it weighed a good couple pounds. Maybe even 10 pounds.
The arrow really isnt that big though. Go back and watch when the maesetr reveals it. It's basically the size of the spears they wield in combat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6eJy7Gq7WI
Then go watch this video that shows Bronn picking up the arrow and loading it (he pulls tension back first, then picks up arrow w/ ease to load it in). It doesnt look much bigger than the spears used in combat, just a decent amount longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv4LvezTa2A
Go to 1:42 to watch him pick it up. This thing doesnt weigh that much. It must be the quality of the steel point that allows it to penetrate the dragon.
Wasnt aware 10 lbs is some huge weight to you.
Miggs
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So let's say the arrow weighed just one pound. That's it. That's about 15x more than the arrows often used with compound bows.
Miggs
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Holy Christ you're dumb as a stump.
Ok....
MVP
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He does not need to get it back lol. He just lays it in the groove.
[MENTION=3213]Wes Mantooth[/MENTION] [MENTION=253]Saint Cy of JFC[/MENTION]
Looked online and did this comparison:
Compound bows
- draw weight is usually 50-80 lbs
- Single man (obviously)
- They shoot up to 60 yards (effectively)
- Average arrow size is 25-27 (just over 2 feet) inches at a weight of 18 grams
Ballista
- Draw weight average was at 4,500-4,700 lbs.
- They were often crewed by 2 or 3 men.
- They'd shoot up to 500 yards (300-350 yards effectively)
- Ballista bolt was 4 to 6 feet long and weighed up to 10 pounds.
Looked online and did this comparison:
Compound bows
- draw weight is usually 50-80 lbs
- Single man (obviously)
- They shoot up to 60 yards (effectively)
- Average arrow size is 25-27 (just over 2 feet) inches at a weight of 18 grams
Ballista
- Draw weight average was at 4,500-4,700 lbs.
- They were often crewed by 2 or 3 men.
- They'd shoot up to 500 yards (300-350 yards effectively)
- Ballista bolt was 4 to 6 feet long and weighed up to 10 pounds.
Miggs
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Cy's dumbassedness. Confirmed.
Yeah, obv this is fiction so stuff is taken at liberty.
We can either assume Bronn has super human strength or that the maester engineered some way that made it be able to be manned by 1 person. The bow clearly traveled, at least least seemingly, further than 500 yards, so we assume the latter and that the maester is an engineering genius.
In conclusion, the arrow doesnt weigh that much and Wes is a dumbass.
But I still refuse to believe a lake drops off that drastically, idc about fantasy or fiction.
So fantasy/fiction only matters when you want it to? lol
If we can suspend reasonable doubt on the ballista we can easily suspend reasonable doubt on the lake/pond.
But yes, overall, reality argues with the episode. But I enjoyed the hell out of it anyways.
Miggs
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Rofl.