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Mayweather VS. McGregor

JazzMan4Life said:
Anybody here gonna watch?
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I will be watching.
Going to a friends house for a fantasy football draft that day and then we will watch the fight after.
 
Anybody who know's about boxing (I know nothing), how will the wild swings McGregor is throwing fair in this match?

Anybody who's anybody, root for McGregor, but bet on Mayweather.
 
I will definitely be watching, McGregor was so entertaining to watch on that tour while Floyd was clearly out of his element.

Now I want McGregor to win really badly as does it seem a lot of people but this going to be tough for him and I kind of doubt the fight lives up to the hype.
 
Am I the only one that doesn't really want to see a MMA fighter take on a boxer? Such boringness to me. What I really want to see is the 24-0 Khabib Nurmagomedov fight vs McGregor for his belt.
 
JazzMan4Life said:
Anybody who know's about boxing (I know nothing), how will the wild swings McGregor is throwing fair in this match?

Anybody who's anybody, root for McGregor, but bet on Mayweather.
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Yeah, I'd love to see McGregor win. But the reality is that Mayweather is basically the best there's ever been at not letting top level pro boxers hit him. Mayweather is not a brawler, he is a methodical technical boxer who knows how to control the scorecards. This is a silly exhibition. I don't see any way that McGregor can out box a 49-0 boxer.
 
Bulletproof said:
Yeah, I'd love to see McGregor win. But the reality is that Mayweather is basically the best there's ever been at not letting top level pro boxers hit him. Mayweather is not a brawler, he is a methodical technical boxer who knows how to control the scorecards. This is a silly exhibition. I don't see any way that McGregor can out box a 49-0 boxer.
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He isn't going to out box him, and he's not going to try to do that. Mayweather is the better offensive and defensive boxer. That said, McGregor has the most powerful offensive weapon in either fighters' tool box: his left hand. His whole strategy, I'm sure, is designed around hurting Mayweather with it; and then last long enough to hurt him some more with it.

Everything McGregor has ever said about his durability versus fighters with the size and reach of Mayweathers has basically been true. It'll be interesting to see if it remains that way while he's taking surgically accurate shots from Mayweather. The money should definitely be against it. But it'll be fun to see.
 
jazzman12 said:
So it's dumb to not want to watch a boxer who has given the masses some of the most boring fights in the history of the sport go up against an MMA fighter who's out of his element and in way over his head?
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...And yet here we are: at the biggest pay-per-view total ever. So, yeah.

Look, whether you want to admit it or not, the martial arts are ur-sports. If you like sports, this is can't-miss.
 
NAOS said:
...And yet here we are: at the biggest pay-per-view total ever. So, yeah.

Look, whether you want to admit it or not, the martial arts are ur-sports. If you like sports, this is can't-miss.
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I love sports and I can't wait to miss this. Am I in the minority? Almost certainly. It was a sideshow idea from the get go and the clips I've seen of their little publicity tour only reinforced that idea 100x fold.

Obviously there's a lot of interest in the event but for me it's right up there alongside: man wrestles bear, Michael Phelps-v-Shark, or a battle of the sexes type of tennis match. Yup, it's generated a ton of pay per view purchases but what lemmings spend their money on isn't any of my business. I'll save my entertainment dollar until the powers that be find a way to finally get Tiger Woods and Caitlyn Jenner to face off in a high stakes Curling match.
 
jazzman12 said:
I love sports and I can't wait to miss this. Am I in the minority? Almost certainly. It was a sideshow idea from the get go and the clips I've seen of their little publicity tour only reinforced that idea 100x fold.

Obviously there's a lot of interest in the event but for me it's right up there alongside: man wrestles bear, Michael Phelps-v-Shark, or a battle of the sexes type of tennis match. Yup, it's generated a ton of pay per view purchases but what lemmings spend their money on isn't any of my business. I'll save my entertainment dollar until the powers that be find a way to finally get Tiger Woods and Caitlyn Jenner to face off in a high stakes Curling match.
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It's basically pointless to have refinement with sports. You sound like a modern day Philistine. The NBA is a ****ing joke, too, if you want to have a serious discussion about all this. Save all that discernment, 'refinement', and choosiness for the cultural forces that actually contain genius -- like literature, music, philosophy, science, etc.
 
NAOS said:
It's basically pointless to have refinement with sports. You sound like a modern day Philistine. The NBA is a ****ing joke, too, if you want to have a serious discussion about all this. Save all that discernment, 'refinement', and choosiness for the cultural forces that actually contain genius -- like literature, music, philosophy, science, etc.
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The NBA might be a joke, but at least it's the best basketball players in the world facing off against each other playing the same sport. I realize that boxing and MMA are both classified as fighting sports but they're not even close to being the same sport. I'm sure that's something that we can all agree on.

That being said, they're taking 2 fighters from completely different worlds and asking one of those fighters to do something that he's never done before against a guy who's pretty much perfected the art. I wouldn't presume to tell you what you should find entertaining any more than you should tell somebody that they're dumb for not watching, but let's be honest about what this is: a gimmick fight that's being sensationalized for the sake of getting our entertainment dollar. Nothing more, nothing less. The long term ramifications this fight will have on the sporting world as a whole will be slim to none. It's simply a gimmicky exhibition that will see both fighters laughing all the way to the bank.
 
jazzman12 said:
The NBA might be a joke, but at least it's the best basketball players in the world facing off against each other playing the same sport. I realize that boxing and MMA are both classified as fighting sports but they're not even close to being the same sport. I'm sure that's something that we can all agree on.

That being said, they're taking 2 fighters from completely different worlds and asking one of those fighters to do something that he's never done before against a guy who's pretty much perfected the art. I wouldn't presume to tell you what you should find entertaining any more than you should tell somebody that they're dumb for not watching, but let's be honest about what this is: a gimmick fight that's being sensationalized for the sake of getting our entertainment dollar. Nothing more, nothing less. The long term ramifications this fight will have on the sporting world as a whole will be slim to none. It's simply a gimmicky exhibition that will see both fighters laughing all the way to the bank.
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A huge part of the NBA is gimmick. There's been a slow march toward parity and a level playing field, but we're still a long way off from that. So don't give me some 'same sport' **** when front offices can be run with highly contrasting philosophies/tactics that correspond to market size ($$$$).

Back to this fight: why not behold the gimmick and hype in its pure form? You assumed that I wanted to watch this fight for the window it provides onto some 'pure human art'. You're wrong. It's for the window it provides onto the gimmick and the hype, which, even though you want to hypocognize it, defines all mass-market sport to alarming degrees.

But then there's also the chance that McGregor lands a big left. Instead of cherry-picking my one post, why don't you look at the others? I pretty clearly acknowledge the tilted odds... and that's part of the intrigue.
 
The irony is that jazzman12 is the guy who should take sport, and all that it entails at this scale, more seriously. Not me.
 
NAOS said:
A huge part of the NBA is gimmick. There's been a slow march toward parity and a level playing field, but we're still a long way off from that. So don't give me some 'same sport' **** when front offices can be run with highly contrasting philosophies/tactics that correspond to market size ($$$$).

Back to this fight: why not behold the gimmick and hype in its pure form? You assumed that I wanted to watch this fight for the window it provides onto some 'pure human art'. You're wrong. It's for the window it provides onto the gimmick and the hype, which, even though you want to hypocognize it, defines all mass-market sport to alarming degrees.

But then there's also the chance that McGregor lands a big left. Instead of cherry-picking my one post, why don't you look at the others? I pretty clearly acknowledge the tilted odds... and that's part of the intrigue.
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I think you're over complicating our debate. You basically said that if you're a sports fan, you'd be "dumb" not to watch this fight. I consider myself a pretty big sports fan, so I took the time to point out why this fight holds little to no intrigue for me. If this sort of thing floats your boat (or anybody else's), I've got not problem with it. I just don't think my lack of enthusiasm for this event makes my choice not to watch it "dumb" or diminishes my sports fandom in any way, shape, or form.
 
About as interesting as watching Ben Johnson racing a horse. Mayweather will stop him inside 6 if he's not taking the piss, I on the other hand will be drinking piss in a pub that hasn't got the modern equivalent of bearded ladies on the tellie ruining the ambiance.
 
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