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Barcelona Terror Attacks

I was there in early September last year, spent most of my time there drinking at various bar off Las Ramblas.
 
This is getting outrageous it all started with those two black men sniping from vans. We need to Outlaw vans or at minimum force them to register there vans an fine them for not locking there keys away in a safe. Counter protest all van owners. Take away there free speech.
 
As much as I hate it, they are smart using cars as weapons. Really, really hard to stop.

I will never understand wanting to hurt and kill people in the name of ideology.
 
As much as I hate it, they are smart using cars as weapons. Really, really hard to stop.

I will never understand wanting to hurt and kill people in the name of ideology.

The symbolism of using aircraft to attack the World Trade Centre did not escape my notice either. The USA had used their technological power to bomb parts of the middle east and so on with impunity, I thought it was a symbolic role reversal. Morality and the rest of it aside, it interested me.
 
As much as I hate it, they are smart using cars as weapons. Really, really hard to stop.

I will never understand wanting to hurt and kill people in the name of ideology.

We'll need to place bollards in places with large pedestrian crowds... then the terrorists will move on to the next best method for mass murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard
 
it is a good thing that those European countries let in all those refugees so that the terrorist could come in with them. One thing I was glad we didn't allow.
 
We'll need to place bollards in places with large pedestrian crowds... then the terrorists will move on to the next best method for mass murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard

we've asked for them to be installed outside the entry's to work, (I work at a major government facility) has been refused by management due to the impact it would have on foot traffic.

Already starting to see these outside gas stations/convenience stores and such. Why not? We use them at work to protect pedestrians from forklift traffic.
 
Already starting to see these outside gas stations/convenience stores and such. Why not? We use them at work to protect pedestrians from forklift traffic.

The ridiculous thing is that before the last round of redevelopment we had rings of bollards out the front of the main entries. They also removed those protective screens like you see in banks from service desks, removed secure air locks, all because it makes people feel intimidated. Staff safety? Can always get more staff...
 
They didn't have much of a choice.

But if they had happened to make some anti-immigrant laws, I'm quite sure whitey would have respected the law and filled out their papers to immigrate legally. You know, instead of the whole slaughtering and land stealing deals.
 
But if they had happened to make some anti-immigrant laws, I'm quite sure whitey would have respected the law and filled out their papers to immigrate legally. You know, instead of the whole slaughtering and land stealing deals.

Had the Natives had the power to regulate immigration, they might have acted differently. They didn't, we do (to a large extent). The analogy to the Natives doesn't make sense. It illustrates the opposite argument. That we should be regulating immigration. I think the crux of the matter is that we're in a totally different situation. And immigration does not pose the existential threat to this society that the European expeditions proved to be for the Natives.
 
yeah those savages. murdering women children from neighboring tribes.


like those Indians where ANGELS

Too bad you don't learn a little history before uttering your simplistic opinions...

When the English settled southern New England in the 17th century, many of the native tribes had long established rivalries and periodic struggles for dominance among themselves. In the two English-Native wars of the era, the Pequot War of 1637, and King Philip's War(the English name for Metacomet, son of Massasoit of the Wampanoag, was Philip) of 1675-76, certain tribes allied themselves with the English, hoping to gain an advantage over rival tribes. Thus, in the Pequot War, the Narragansett allied with the English against the Pequot. In King Philip's War, the Mohegans under sachem Uncas allied with the English against the Narragansett.

However, despite these tribal rivalries, warfare among the tribes was far different in extent and style then warfare as waged by the English. This difference was brought home to the Narragansett in 1637, and to all the New England tribes, when they joined the expeditionary force of the army of the United Colonies of New England in its attack on the fortified Pequot village located in present day Mystic, Ct. in 1637. The English set fire to the fort, burning to death hundreds of women and children.

Witness accounts of that battle stated that when the Narragansett saw what the English were doing, some began firing their guns harmlessly into the air, while large numbers of Narragansett warriors actually left the field of battle altogether rather then take part in an atrocity against their tribal rivals.

The reason? Native Americans in southern New England did not practice total war, and were appalled to realize that is exactly the type of war practiced by the English. The attack on the Pequot fort at Mystic was the first time the tribes were exposed to total war, and their initial reaction was to withdraw rather then take part in what they regarded as an atrocity.

Admittedly, this did not prevent the Mohegans from joining the English attack on the Narragansett Fort in the Winter of 1676, during the Great Swamp Fight, when, again, the English burned to death hundreds of Narragansett women, children, and old men(the young men were not present in the fort, having joined Philip's forces elsewhere).

It was the English, not the natives, who introduced and practiced total war. The concept of total war was alien to the natives, and in general, warfare among the tribes were much lower key affairs, resulting in few actual casualties. The tribes did not practice killing the women and children of rival tribes during their conflicts.
 
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