NBA looking to change draft lottery

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

The word from Woj:

The National Basketball Association is aggressively pursuing draft lottery reform that could be voted into legislation before the start of the 2017-'18 season, league sources told ESPN.

Commissioner Adam Silver is a strong advocate to de-incentivize tanking by implementing lower odds on the NBA's worst teams to gain the top picks in the draft, league sources said.

The proposed measures would also increase the chances of better teams making a jump up into the draft lottery. The NBA's 14 non-playoff team compromise the league's annual draft lottery system.

If passed, the lottery reform would be phased into use over time, and there's no indication that the 2018 NBA Draft would fall under new legislation, league sources said.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think this would be good for the jazz.

 

[The Midnight]

I think this would be good for the jazz.

Me too. Having said that we have voted against the change in the past. So who knows.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Stupid. All this does is shift the tank range and target to a wider mark more teams can try to hit. It would cause more tanking IMO.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Stupid. All this does is shift the tank range and target to a wider mark more teams can try to hit. It would cause more tanking IMO.

I'm curious: While I haven't seen how the new lottery would be structured, how would lowering the odds for the worst teams, and increasing the odds at the back end of the lottery increase the number of teams willing to tank??

P.S.- I think lottery change is wayyyy overdue for the NBA and I'm all for any changes that make it so I don't have to hear 1 more dumbass Jazz fan say "We need to blow it up and tank".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm curious: While I haven't seen how the new lottery would be structured, how would lowering the odds for the worst teams, and increasing the odds at the back end of the lottery increase the number of teams willing to tank??

P.S.- I think lottery change is wayyyy overdue for the NBA and I'm all for any changes that make it so I don't have to hear 1 more dumbass Jazz fan say "We need to blow it up and tank".

Wherever the highest odds are placed teams are going to try and hit that mark.

This also makes the dreaded 8th seed finish even worse.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wherever the highest odds are placed teams are going to try and hit that mark.

What if there isn't a highest odds place?

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Stupid. All this does is shift the tank range and target to a wider mark more teams can try to hit. It would cause more tanking IMO.

Who gives a ****? All that matters, is how this affects Utah, and this is good news for where we are right now. Better odds of jumping up and an extra chance to do so as well. Last time Utah finished bottom 3, we had 2 teams jump in front of us anyway.

I generally hate the idea of changing the lottery to discourage tanking, but I'm totally on board with these minor changes that don't hurt the Jazz and could help us strike gold if we miss the playoffs.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

This also makes the dreaded 8th seed finish even worse.

This is true, but it doesn't change the truth about being an 8th seed, which is that if you have a young and upcoming team, the playoff experience is more valuable than taking a long shot in the lottery. If you have a flawed team built around mediocre vets, like Utah had with Alsap, the 8th seed will be a waste of time just as it was before.

Maybe this will help some teams decide to get off their treadmill of finishing 8th every year just to get abused in the 1st round.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What if there isn't a highest odds place?

Then that would just be bad.

I think as far as record based lottery goes, we are in the best system.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I still think the wheel based system is the best.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

It was a couple of years ago, and I think it was in here, but somebody posted a draft model that the NBA was looking into that did away with the lottery and drafting based off of record all together. I absolutely loved it, thought it was revolutionary and refreshing. Basically, it was a fairly intricate system in which an NBA team rotates through every single draft position over the course of 30 years. This is just a hypothetical example, but basically it was along the lines of: If the Jazz are slated for the #1 pick in 2020, then in 2021 they would be slated for the #15 pick, and so on.

I love it and wish the NBA would pull the trigger on something like that.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It was a couple of years ago, and I think it was in here, but somebody posted a draft model that the NBA was looking into that did away with the lottery and drafting based off of record all together. I absolutely loved it, thought it was revolutionary and refreshing. Basically, it was a fairly intricate system in which an NBA team rotates through every single draft position over the course of 30 years. This is just a hypothetical example, but basically it was along the lines of: If the Jazz are slated for the #1 pick in 2020, then in 2021 they would be slated for the #15 pick, and so on.

I love it and wish the NBA would pull the trigger on something like that.

The wheel

Yeah I like it too.

My favorite thing is still getting rid of the draft altogether and treat incoming prospects like college does and make it a recruiting game.

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[7StraightIsGreat]

The wheel

Yeah I like it too.

My favorite thing is still getting rid of the draft altogether and treat incoming prospects like college does and make it a recruiting game.

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Why, so large market teams could snatch up every blue chip prospect?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Why, so large market teams could snatch up every blue chip prospect?

It's perfect. We could have P5 G5 and Independents in the NBA. Maybe even have bowl games to determine who the national champion is.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why, so large market teams could snatch up every blue chip prospect?

You think every top tier rookie is going to go to the same handful teams? There is a thing called playing time that really matters and team reputation for player development.

I've made some post about how to curb that too if this general system was adopted. This is generally what I remember coming up with.

As it stands now there are 60 draft picks. The NBA could do the same, but instead of calling them draft picks they are now player vouchers.

30 tier 1 vouchers and 30 tier 2 vouchers. The tier 2 vouchers are capped out at the rookie minimum as it stands now. These vouchers can be traded just like draft picks.

The tier 1 vouchers would have a cap too, but I'm not sure what it would be. Tier 1's would also have a minimum amount that is higher than the tier 2 (enough to make it very difficult for any rookie to say no to a tier 1 and take a tier 2). No team can go over the cap to sign rookies to anything above the minimum amount for that tier.

So basically once the off-season starts teams would start recruiting these rookies right away. Setting up interviews, showing them around, basically just like how colleges do. And at the same time, the rookies are trying their hardest to impress the teams they want to play for. The NBA could still have a televised event too where these players announce their choices live.

NBA teams no longer have any incentive to be bad. If anything they should try their hardest to be as competitive as possible.

 

[RJF]

You think every top tier rookie is going to go to the same handful teams? There is a thing called playing time that really matters and team reputation for player development.

I've made some post about how to curb that too if this general system was adopted. This is generally what I remember coming up with.

As it stands now there are 60 draft picks. The NBA could do the same, but instead of calling them draft picks they are now player vouchers.

30 tier 1 vouchers and 30 tier 2 vouchers. The tier 2 vouchers are capped out at the rookie minimum as it stands now. These vouchers can be traded just like draft picks.

The tier 1 vouchers would have a cap too, but I'm not sure what it would be. Tier 1's would also have a minimum amount that is higher than the tier 2 (enough to make it very difficult for any rookie to say no to a tier 1 and take a tier 2). No team can go over the cap to sign rookies to anything above the minimum amount for that tier.

So basically once the off-season starts teams would start recruiting these rookies right away. Setting up interviews, showing them around, basically just like how colleges do. And at the same time, the rookies are trying their hardest to impress the teams they want to play for. The NBA could still have a televised event too where these players announce their choices live.

NBA teams no longer have any incentive to be bad. If anything they should try their hardest to be as competitive as possible.

There aren't a lot of Donovan Mitchell types that are anxious to work out let alone play in the state of Utah.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There aren't a lot of Donovan Mitchell types that are anxious to work out let alone play in the state of Utah.

The Jazz get plenty of 1st round prospects in for workouts. They would get more if there werent draft positions.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I still think the wheel based system is the best.

Remind me what the wheel based system is?

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[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Remind me what the wheel based system is?

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Never mind

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