What a bunch of fragile snowflakes. Can't handle a bunch of people exercising their right to peaceful protest.
Also... Hitler is a socialist like Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic... or peoples's... or a republic.
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What a bunch of fragile snowflakes. Can't handle a bunch of people exercising their right to peaceful protest.
Also... Hitler is a socialist like Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic... or peoples's... or a republic.
Trump has provided a whole new level of attention to these protests and messages trying to be sent. I don't credit him, I like that it happened in spite of him.
What I'd like to see now is that the conversation and protest matures into real, in depth conversations about change and improvements needed from All groups.
What I'd like to see now is that the conversation and protest matures into real, in depth conversations about change and improvements needed from All groups.
Trump can't be a real person.
I keep expecting to get used to it, but I haven't yet.
DutchJazzer
Banned
hitler is a soclaist not only because the name of his momvement. but all other policies he enacted!
JimLes
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Well, you've put an exclamation point after that statement, so it must be true!
DutchJazzer
Banned
ghelathcare, mandatory unions, free education, comprehensive environmental laws and regulations, blaming the 1% capitalist Jews for the trouble of Germany just like Bernie does(except the jew part). taking money from the rich jews to start a factory for the german people!
hitlers momvement was not only named national socialist, bu the actually encacted social laws.
DutchJazzer
Banned
also you might wanna look into the history of Volkswagen
that is a classic example of hitlers, national socialist plan to have a socialist factory!
taking money and property form the rich cpaitalist and making a factory for the "working poor"
IT WAS AN ATTEMP AT SEIZING THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND GIVING IT TO THE PEOPLE.
JUST LIKE CHAVEZ AND MADURO DID in VENEZUELA!
do not mistake germany for right wing, it is revisionist history trying to get you on the side of the establisment and globalism(4th reich!
Red
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If Hitler was a socialist, then why did he begin his purge by killing thousands of socialists? In fact , he killed anybody that leaned to the left:
"The basis of the conflation of nazism and socialism is the term "National Socialism," a self description of the Nazis. "National Socialism" includes the word "socialism", but it is just a word. Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.
Nazism is a right wing ideology. It is violently racist, anti-socialist, and it targets the political left for extermination. This is underscored by Albert Einstein's embrace of socialism throughout his life -- and in particular in his 1949 essay, Why Socialism? -- along with the fact that Einstein's name was included on a nazi death list with a bounty of $50,000 offered for his assassination. If nazism really is socialism, why would Einstein have identified himself as a socialist a scant four years after WWII?
The current right wing conflation of nazism and the left is sleazy. A more informed population would view this as completely idiotic, but unfortunately this propaganda is becoming increasingly effective".
http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html
It is Dutch who is revising history. It is part of Dutch's effort to equate the American Left with Nazism. It is part of his effort to equate American Neo Nazis as somehow leftist, when it is in fact quite clear they are aligned with the Alt Right. Pay no attention to Dutch.
"For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left, and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time portray him visually with a Hitler mustache. Conservatives have also argued that Jared Loughner -- the shooter of U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords -- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by Ayn Rand).
The conflation of nazism and socialism has gone largely unchallenged by the media, and through repetition it is becoming almost "common knowledge" in the US, so I feel compelled to speak against it. I hope that others, especially professors who have occasion to talk about it in and out of class, will also speak against this vile propaganda."
Red
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Sorry for this sidebar, that is off topic, but on too many occasions Dutch has promoted his misguided effort to equate the Left with Nazism. This Snopes article does an excellent job of describing how this BS developed in the first place, both from the term National Socialism, and from Hitler's own words at times. However, there is simply no equating Nazism with socialism as we know it, and to label Hitler a leftist is truly absurd. Beyond the fact that Hitler outlawed socialists in Germany and ordered their extermination, there is a fuller body of evidence disproving this asinine claim:
http://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
http://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
There's so much wrong with his drivel I don't even know where to start. Thanks for posting this so I wouldn't have to waste my time with his gibberish.
The Jews were the top 1%, the capitalists and that's why he exterminated them was a new insanity I had not seen previously. It's news to me that the poor jews were spared and that the rich capitalist Aryans were sent en masse to the camps. WOW! Just wow! Hitler was an anti-communist and anti-socialist if anything.
DutchJazzer
Banned
lol the socialist don't kill socialist myth!
hahahahaha
men don't kill men? blacks dont kill black?
because he killed some socialist he is not a socialist, hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahaha
i am looking at his own writing and his eneacted left wing policies!
what do you got he is right wing becuase he is racisT? the left is also racist!
refute these left iwng polciies for me then
-education is a right and should be free provided by government
-comprehensive environmental laws and regulation
-mandatory union for all
-gun control
-seizing property from the rich and setting up factories for the people(vw for example)
- free healthcare for all, unlike you lefties wanna say bismarck did that, bismarcks helathcare only covered the old, the poor and government workers. hitler introduced it for ALL!
- blaming the financial problems on the 1% capitalist(in hitlers case jews) in bernies case just those filthy capitalist
- free **** for everyone(providing a free radio so everybody could get the news
- state funded art programs and subsidies
-the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism( i amdit he did not fully succeed on this part, but he was well on his way to nationalize factories and industry)
i could go on and on and on and on. you think because he killed some socialist he is not a socialist. that is a fallacy! he killed political opponents from both sides of the spectrum!
maduro arrested politcal opponents who are also socialist,it is just that they think maduro implemented socialsim wrong and that their brand is the real socialism that will work! while maduro thinks is socialism is the best and only fails because oof the evil empire usa
DutchJazzer
Banned
pleas e go read mein kampf. please look at what policies hitler enacted!
what makes him right wing? please define it!
name his right wing policies! i named a few left wing policies!
now name his right wing policies!
or tell me that those policies that i listed are right wing polices, or he never enacted those policies at all! GO ahead DO IT!
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DutchJazzer
Banned
hitler named his party socialist.
his book is socialist drivel
his policies is socialist/left wing toxicicty.
yet snopes tells me he is not socialist because muh racism and killing socialist?
LOL! get real people WAKE UP!
his book is socialist drivel
his policies is socialist/left wing toxicicty.
yet snopes tells me he is not socialist because muh racism and killing socialist?
LOL! get real people WAKE UP!
DutchJazzer
Banned
hitler named his party socialist.
his book is socialist drivel
his policies is socialist/left wing toxicicty.
if those do not make him socialist what does. succeeding in creating a mythical socialist utopia makes one a socialist? well then no one will ever be a socialist! because every single person will fail in creating this mythical utopia!
a socialsit to me is believing in some sort of socialist variations, and when in power enacting those policies. hitler named himself a socialis. wrote about his variation of socialism, and when he wa sin power enacted left wing socialist policies!
yet snopes tells me he is not socialist because muh racism and killing socialist?
LOL! get real people WAKE UP!
his book is socialist drivel
his policies is socialist/left wing toxicicty.
if those do not make him socialist what does. succeeding in creating a mythical socialist utopia makes one a socialist? well then no one will ever be a socialist! because every single person will fail in creating this mythical utopia!
a socialsit to me is believing in some sort of socialist variations, and when in power enacting those policies. hitler named himself a socialis. wrote about his variation of socialism, and when he wa sin power enacted left wing socialist policies!
yet snopes tells me he is not socialist because muh racism and killing socialist?
LOL! get real people WAKE UP!
DutchJazzer
Banned
ooh yeah hitler was a social justice warrior!
in multiple speeches he preaches for the establisment of a socially just state trolololololol!
but muh racism and muh socialist killer!
in multiple speeches he preaches for the establisment of a socially just state trolololololol!
but muh racism and muh socialist killer!
DutchJazzer
Banned
look into the hitler policy called NSV
NAZIPEOPLESWELLFARE!
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha
snopes politifact are partisan jokes!
or the term Volksgemeinschaft which is something like community and society hmm sounds like a form of communism!
but nazi cant be socialist because he killed some socialist!!!!!!!!
hahaha hahahahah
hitler is right wing is a lie told by the mainstream media and socialist historians, becuase the truth discredits socialism and communism.
how about communism, they had to create posters tleling villagers no matter how hungry you are it is wrong to eat your child. after they killed of the rich farmers and seized their lands. and production of food stopped. people forget history! so it will be reapeated! in venezuela people are litterlaly hungry. because socialism/communism is WRONG!
NAZIPEOPLESWELLFARE!
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha
snopes politifact are partisan jokes!
or the term Volksgemeinschaft which is something like community and society hmm sounds like a form of communism!
but nazi cant be socialist because he killed some socialist!!!!!!!!
hahaha hahahahah
hitler is right wing is a lie told by the mainstream media and socialist historians, becuase the truth discredits socialism and communism.
how about communism, they had to create posters tleling villagers no matter how hungry you are it is wrong to eat your child. after they killed of the rich farmers and seized their lands. and production of food stopped. people forget history! so it will be reapeated! in venezuela people are litterlaly hungry. because socialism/communism is WRONG!
Red
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For the first time in 50 years, Germany's far right party won seats in the German Parliment yesterday. The other parties said they will not work with them, because the far right party is the successor to the Nazis. Some were yelling "No Nazis!" at them. I guess the German people don't know their own history, if we listen to a certain troll, lol. Guess the Germans can't tell right from left, lol.
I'd like to see a certain troll walk up to a group of American Neo Nazis and tell them to their face that they are actually leftist socialists. And see where that gets him. That would be enjoyable to see.
Gee, all those replies. Guess I triggered a troll, lol.
I'd like to see a certain troll walk up to a group of American Neo Nazis and tell them to their face that they are actually leftist socialists. And see where that gets him. That would be enjoyable to see.
Gee, all those replies. Guess I triggered a troll, lol.
♪alt13
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"National" buddy they were nationalists. Can you Srsly Stfu now?